I believe I created it months ago in a post predicting exactly where these two companies would go.

This is better than any of the soaps on tv anymore.

Joe's got half rate training airline going now? That's a CEO's fantasy! Especially in negotiations.

You can bet your sweet bottom if the ATI MEC is laying low they are Joes puppets. It's a unwinnable situation be that the case.

 

What are you smoking, injecting or snorting? Because I want some of it!

Wait is this JV? Hmm two posts...

 

Hey K....it probably is JV sitting with his lacky MEC eating Cheetos at the weekly sleep-over.

 

"ABX freight for HALF THE RATE".

Congrats, you do the same work for 1/2 the pay. Are you bragging about that? confused really about why that could be a slogan.

Signed,

No one important and no dog in the fight

 

On any ramp at any time in the history of aviation WHOSE job is threatened more the pilot who set the top pay or those making half and looking up. You could throw the ATI group a 20% bone and they'll go giddy over it. While still making substantially less than thier sister company.

Your union fears the ATI group growing to a substantial number and then a merger forced on us. We'd have to vote on represantion...afterwards 1224 would be gone off this property. Youd be under ATI/alpa then would come the ISL committee and the integration where the first 75 legacy would be bypassed.


Btw, cheetos? really

Dont like em, and we wont allow them in the cockpit. Dont want you guys getting that cheesy powder on the gear handle.

 

Really? This is not a personal attack, more commenting towards your knowledge and quality in the content of your post; but you're sounding either dumb or stupid....your choice.

At least come to the table with something reasonable. *If* there were a merger between ABX/ATI, regardless of who survives, there would be no skipping 75 numbers in the creation of a ISL. While far enough fetched, if there were such a thing, ABX pilots would sustain the higher end of a list since there years of service are too great to bypass when compared to ATI.

Are you honestly representing that ATI pilots would forgo ABX's contract in order to remain with ALPA? Anyone who's been around these blocks already knows the representative authority (i.e. ALPA/Teamsters/etc.) has little to do with your contract. It's all in the pilot group.

My personal belief is that ATI is suspending hiring for a little bit and will resume in the future some time (pending movement on their B757 flying). Regardless if they resume or stay in a suspended mode; the future continues support ABX having a larger number of crewmembers...if that really matters to you.

Lastly I am not in favor of a merger between these groups (at this time).

 

Actually no one is 100% on this.

One point kinda close is voting on representation. The group as a whole votes. This would be after road shows of both unions. Then both would negotiate seniority before an arbitrator. The goal here is for your relative seniority to stay "approximately " the same after the integration. This is all governed by law now days which was written post AA/TWA

The larger numeric group would hold an initial advantage. Depending on your opinion of which union you favor.. Like I said you'd have road shows for both . The ATI certificate would obviously be the more lucrative of the two. Simply due to the diversity of operations. Some of the above is simplified but I'm tired.

Technically not legal but management could have influence over the process after a merger was initiated. That's some of the reason why the east west lawsuit is still brewing over what is now American. Say like over inflation of one of the companies or vise versa.

Key point it's not our choice anyway

Another is the fact that one of Americas largest freight haulers has been somewhat stagnant while yet another is highly dependent on a gov subsidized mail contract. THE ONE that is growing by leaps and bounds is one based off mfg direct buyer. Where I can get a bag of Doritos by pressing a d*** button. Or I can buy dog food which is sent strait to my door same day for the same price as dragging my fat @$$ to Walmart.

Now we have two major players in this "new" game. ATSG and Atlas holdings. I know CONair (kalitta) is on it too but no one knows to what extent .


Being a fr8dawg dictates that I must now hit the porn sites then take sleeping aids then get up and drink energy drinks and fly all over the #####%% clock in wx in 30yr old rattle cans





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Suckered by someone Probably on the MEC

 

He may be that CH, but you won't even make it off probation.