What's really funny is Hete wanted it gone then JV ran his mouth and committed to it. I think JV should be working on his resume......

 

**** that! No more DU inspired check airmen. We got rid of most of them. Except 2

 

My understanding is that a successful single-carrier petition will result in a representational election which will then lead to negotiations for a single CBA. No merge of the companies or lists is required but once a single CBA is in place there is little incentive to keeping the airlines seperate and many potential corporate efficiencies that can be realized with a merge.

Is that not the case?

As far as home basing... It is very nice. It's not just the flights but hotels and the lack of stress. For the 3-1/2 years I was at ATI (inclusive of two furloughs, BTW) my only responsibility was to drive the ten miles to my local airport in time for the airline's passenger check in time. If I did that much then any delays were crew scheduling's problem, not mine. If I was anywhere other than home then I was provided with a hotel room.

I have no idea what home basing is worth. It certainly isn't worth the pay difference between the current ATI and ABX contracts. If it could be done right, with everything else being equal, it could be a good deal, though, as the "benefits" from the home basing expenses aren't taxable income as would be any increase in pay in lieu of home basing and the company isn't paying their half of the payroll taxes on them, either.

 

Throughout Active Shooter's posts, I'm getting the impression that he has a real BEEF with the Abx pilot group, if you catch my drift.

 

He's a troll. Ignore him.

 

Obviously Troll you don't work for ABX, otherwise you would know. Ask your daddy JV!

 

It can, but that's like step 45 and we haven't opened the book to step 1. Everything between that point and here involves numerous votes. In and of its self the single filing is just one union (doesn't have to be a union either) claiming it should represent the entire group.

I don't think it's a wise choice for 1224. I have nothing derogatory to say about 1224 either. The above post about voting numbers is entirely correct. Being here in the time period you were you are probably aware this management group has no problem falsely inflated one carriers crew numbers to get what they want. Just sayin.....



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JV and BeefoBrady falsify an official record? It's called title 18 , 1001 violation. Last time I checked it was 5 years and/or fine. Trust me.....former law enforcement will be watching this one. We can only pray.

 

From the management seat:

I assume your referring to the CCIA/ATI merger?


From a management perspective its common to play that game either way. In a very short answer on a public traded company its all trading based. Keeping numbers inflated (staffing, equipment, etc) keeps confidence up and stock up and keeps Board members employed. It takes short term capital to do this though. ATSG was undervalued at the time and could pull it off. On the other side of the issue is to undergo RIF and liquidate, take the hit and recover through losses and write offs. Stock will tank as a result and there usually no other options. Most of us figured you guys would go under this way.



CTR, LARRY, 707

You guys are all correct on the NMB filing. It doesn't preclude a merger or nor force contracts down your throat. Larry's input is valid from a management point. If dealing with labor narrows to one union its in the companies interest to merge at that point. The opinion on tactics is also valid. Lots of ways to influence this from the management side. (all are legal). Ethical no, Legal yes. There are still people out there that realize at the end of the day families are at risk.

 

ABX Air Seeks TRO in Pilot Dispute
BY Business Wire
— 9:34 AM ET 10/31/2016
WILMINGTON, Ohio--(BUSINESS WIRE)-- Air Transport Services Group, Inc. ( ATSG today said its airline subsidiary, ABX Air, Inc., has filed a complaint in the U.S. District Court for the Southern District of Ohio against the International Brotherhood of Teamsters, Airline Division; and the Airline Professionals Association of the International Brotherhood of Teamsters, Local 1224 (collectively, the “IBT”), for injunctive and declaratory relief for violations of the Railway Labor Act under the labor agreement between ABX Air and the IBT covering ABX Air’s pilot employees.
John Starkovich, President of ABX Air, said that the IBT has taken several actions in violation of its labor agreement with ABX Air. These include advising ABX Air’s pilot employees to end their longstanding practices of bidding for extra flying on a volunteer basis and selling vacation days back to ABX Air, resulting in ABX Air having to assign that work to pilots, which results in premium pay and the granting of compensatory vacation days.
On October 27, IBT filed a request with the U.S. National Mediation Board for it to consider whether ABX Air and its affiliate airline, Air Transport International, should be treated as one airline for purposes of collective bargaining. The IBT is also seeking to force a merger of ABX Air and Air Transport International in negotiations with ABX Air for an amended collective bargaining agreement.
Starkovich added that a business combination is not the proper subject of bargaining, has nothing to do with the pay, benefits and work rules of ABX Air’s pilot employees, and is not in the best interest of the customers or employees of either airline or ATSG’s shareholders. Accordingly, ABX Air is seeking a federal court order enjoining an illegal job action under Section 2, First and Section 6 of the U.S. Railway Labor Act.
“Our business has expanded rapidly, particularly in the last 12 months, and we have aggressively expanded our flight crew teams at ABX Air to meet growing demand from our customers,” he said. “Our flight crews at ABX Air have benefitted from both premium pay and extra compensatory time off as we have ramped up our operations. We are asking only that these pilots continue to honor their obligations under terms spelled out in our labor agreement as we hire, train and add more pilots to ABX Air’s workforce.”
Joe Hete, President and CEO of ATSG, said ABX Air’s customers have been notified of the company’s position and the steps it is taking to resolve the labor issue and assure continued superior service.
“We hope that the leadership of the IBT will work with ABX Air to resolve these issues via negotiation, arbitration and other means available under their labor agreement,” Hete said. “It is possible, however, that unfavorable court rulings or a job action by the union could result in a reduction in ABX Air’s service levels that would have a material negative effect on the business of ABX Air and ATSG. ABX Air will continue to work with the IBT in an effort to ensure that no such service interruptions take place.”