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Old 02-14-2017, 03:16 AM
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Originally Posted by zerozero View Post
Nobody asked me, but you know what I think?

I think there are two obvious alternatives here:

1) Amazon follows the DHL model and outsources.
2) Amazon follows the FedEx/UPS model and brings everyone "in-house" as "captive" employees.

Here's what I know: Amazon started down this path after a couple rough winters with both UPS and FedEx. Their concerns were called "delivery failures".

If Amazon THINKS they can achieve BETTER performance by low balling the entire operation a la' DHL they are going to have a very rude awakening in the air freight industry.

If first class outfits like UPS and FedEx CANNOT perform to Amazon standards then there is no hope if Amazon chooses to continue utilizing dirty ACMI outfits--of which I'm a proud member.

Their only hope of achieving what they *seem* to be pursuing is to run this operation like ANOTHER first class operation and give UPS and FedEx a run for their money.

But you know what they say about how to make a million dollars in the airline industry?

Start with two million.

Good luck to everyone.

Well, seeing as Amazon is already cozying up with DHL I'd say there's really only one alternative.

Atlas and ATSG employees, BOHICA.
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Old 02-14-2017, 02:37 PM
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Originally Posted by Kougarok View Post
What kind of crack are you smoking?
Not crack- Monster energy drinks administered by IV....a case at a time!!
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Old 02-14-2017, 02:50 PM
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Originally Posted by l8fr82hub View Post
Not crack- Monster energy drinks administered by IV....a case at a time!!


Nothing wrong with monster

Or monster mixed with 5hr

That with an injection of test or some hgh GeT dA rAgE ON!


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Originally Posted by CTRCommander View Post
Nothing wrong with monster

Or monster mixed with 5hr

That with an injection of test or some hgh GeT dA rAgE ON!


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I rest my case....
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Old 02-15-2017, 02:04 PM
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Florida West is being wound up so that puts the rumors of Amazon taking the certificate to bed. I imagine the FW pilots regret not joining 1224 which apparently was offerd to them. That may be just a rumor too.
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Old 02-15-2017, 02:12 PM
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Originally Posted by Atrasaty View Post
I imagine the FW pilots regret not joining 1224 which apparently was offered to them. That may be just a rumor too.

Not rumor; FACT.
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Old 02-16-2017, 08:21 AM
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Last year Atlas put out a press release saying the FL West certificate was sold... buyer not named...
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Originally Posted by atpcliff View Post
Last year Atlas put out a press release saying the FL West certificate was sold... buyer not named...
I've gone thru the press releases on the Atlas website and can't find that. Do you know around what date it was?
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Old 02-16-2017, 10:21 AM
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Originally Posted by goinaround View Post
Well like I've said to some of my friends here. You spend 1.4 Billion (with a B) Dollars on a cargo hub. Are you going to rent your lift? If I spend a million dollars on a lake home.....am I going to rent a boat?
Want to bet that the land upon which the hub is built is just rented long term. Bet it also has clauses to terminate or buy out the lease as well
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Old 02-16-2017, 12:38 PM
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Florida West will be shut down and the certificate surrendered Feb. 28th. according to JD. ref BK. (EXCO Chair) Only time will tell if JD tells the truth.
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