RezRunner

Not just kicked to the curb. I mean they were, but they have completed indoc and systems ground school and they will have a job as soon as Omni is hiring again, if they want. Which, if historical info is any indicator, will be this summer. ACMI DOD flying is always slow Feb to June and always has been.

Not saying I agree with any of it at all! It's a bunch of horse-manure and it's rotten. Omni management may be slowing down flying on purpose. I wouldn't put it past them. Its a very convenient time to be slowing down, right in the middle of negotiations. They did this same crap last go around in 2017.

JohnBurke

Failure to attach the vertical stabilizer is a bit of a humdinger there, brightspark. That wasn't a UAL or SWA or AA airplane that came apart at 8,000' on departure, then flew to the destination with 95 passengers aboard and very little holding what was left in place, having been attached with the wrong size bolts, wrong part numbers, wrong parts, wrong procedures, old sealant, improper or no torque, etc. But hey, take it, or leave it. No biggie.

dera

I could make a full "johnburke" response and claim everything you said is a lie and make a 600 page essay about it. But I won't.

There weren't 95 passengers aboard.

The vertical stabilizer was attached just fine.

JohnBurke

https://data.ntsb.gov/carol-repgen/a...ort/101318/pdf

Well, let's see...

There were 95 on board. (88 passengers, 95 occupants, to be precise).

The entire vertical stab dorsal fin was missing, along with panels ripped free on the vertical stab, resulting in fractures and deformation of the vertical stab.

Three different bolt part numbers, and different lengths, installed incorrectly, several missing, several too loose to allow torquing, all required to be secured with sealant, and not sealed (also prevents rotation).

Seven of fourteen bolts attaching the dorsal fin to the fuselage were missing. Of the seven remaining, only three were the correct part number. Substantial damage to vertical stabilizer. The attach points for the vertical stab was fractured and deformed in several places. In addition, the fuselage crown skin and left horizontal stab were substantially damaged, with the front spar upper chord fractured, lower chord deformed, and gouges (stress risers). The horizontal stab leading edge and and skin was dented, gouged and puntured in multiple places. That's two out of the three critical stabilizing surfaces on the back of the airplane.

https://aviation-safety.net/database...?id=20200519-0

So, you could claim that everything I said was a lie, but given that everything I said was true, that would make you a liar now, wouldn't it?

Guard

Yes they are 1099 contractors on training pay with no benefits, they become employees when they pass their Type ride, hence why the let guys go just before their Type rides at 0800 when they were scheduled for 1000 ride. They're trying to avoid furloughs in a record hiring environment. Supposedly all pilots were hired immediately by ATI down the hall?

dera

Yes. You said 95 passengers. That was a lie. You said they did not attach the vertical stabilizer correctly, that was a lie.

Pilot4000

Overly lengthy reply inbound.

dera

I expect 5 paragraphs of tautology. Anything less will be a disappointment.

Parma3980

i used to be a ‘Captain at Swift and I got out alive and not violated , its a complete **** show over there. You dont go from Omni to Swift.

The Dominican

That seems to be the case at all these papa's and mama's small outfits.