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Originally Posted by jungle driver
(Post 2545112)
Here is a question about Omni to try and get this thread back on track. If the pilot group passes the TA will Omni become the new golden child, replacing K4, for people looking to get into non-sched operations? what I'm really asking is, after K4 got their new contract they got flooded with applications and the hiring mins shot through the roof. I have been looking at Omni for a little while now but am just short or the PIC time required. I'm worried that once this deal goes through I won't be anywhere close to the new hiring mins if hey jump like K4's did. Do you guys see this happening or not so much?
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Originally Posted by atpcliff
(Post 2543326)
Allegiant got a 47% increase in Total Compensation, according to their Sr. Mgmt. Initially, it helped with their hiring situation. But, their contract was not Industry Standard, and now they are back to about the same poor hiring situation they were in when they signed their contract, according to their pilots that I talked to. Sun Country may be in a similar situation right now.
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What is the schedule like at Omni and what is the average above guarantee that you guys typically see?
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Originally Posted by Formerbuspilot
(Post 2545414)
What is the schedule like at Omni and what is the average above guarantee that you guys typically see?
Don't count on breaking guarantee ever. Happens once a year to me (when it does I credit upwards of 90 hours but it's only one month). |
Does anyone have the new rates? Is minimum gurantee still 60 hrs?
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We are still waiting for official TA and rates to be presented to the pilots. It is assumed it’s at least what was released prior from the company (or better). Minimum guarantee will be 64 hours per month.
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theyre all ready advertising the new stuff from the TA on their job posting.
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Originally Posted by flysooner9
(Post 2545970)
theyre all ready advertising the new stuff from the TA on their job posting.
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just wanted to say congrats on a TA guys!
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Originally Posted by hubbs
(Post 2546113)
They've been doing that for at least the last couple of months.
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Flight Global aricle on Omni Air pay rates...
Well, here is the article posted on FlightGlobal regarding the *NEW* Omni Air Int'l pay rates. AU...
Omni Air to set new high for first officer pay: union 07 March, 2018 SOURCE: Flight Dashboard BY: Jon Hemmerdinger Boston The US charter carrier Omni Air International may have set a new high-water mark for pilot pay, agreeing to a contract that will make its first-year first officers the highest-paid in the US industry, according to its pilots' union. That union, the Airline Professionals Association, Teamsters Local 1224 (APA), says the deal, if ratified, could have broad implications in the US airline industry, serving as a precursor to broader wage growth. "It sets a precedence," says Greg Unterseher, director of representation at APA, an affiliate of the International Brotherhood of Teamsters. "[Omni] is a very small carrier. The more-capitalised carriers could easily raise well above this level." "I think it is illustrative of where we are going," he adds. Under the new agreement, Omni, which operates three Boeing 777s and nine Boeing 767s, will pay first-year first officers $113.02 per hour, up 61% from the currently rate of roughly $70 per hour, the APA says. Omni first officers with 12 years of service could earn $201.17 per hour under the new rates. "The agreement includes major increases in pay that make Omni’s starting first officer salaries the highest in the US airline industry," the union says. "Many Omni pilots operating under the agreement will see their pay more than double during its four-year term." The deal calls for "first-year" captains to earn $169.23 per hour, a 54% bump from the current rate of $109.81 per hour. Captains with ten years of service could earn $297.72 per hour, the union says. "I've never seen that in my career," Unterseher says of the gains. "The old captain [pay] scale became the first officer scale." The deal also provides better benefits, including first-class travel for pilots deadheading on flights longer than three hours, says the union. Tulsa-based Omni did not respond to a request for comment. The union says the airline agreed to the tentative deal on 28 February after more than two-and-a-half years of negotiations. Omni's roughly 250 pilots will vote on whether to ratify the deal in late March, adds the APA. Unterseher says the agreement was hard fought for by the union, adding that it partly reflects a tight pilot labour market. Pilots are "a scare resource right now", he says. "To attract pilots, you are going to have to pay where the market is. There is no way around it." Most US passenger airlines, including majors like American Airlines, Delta Air Lines, Southwest Airlines and United Airlines, signed new pilot contracts in recent years. Those deals, which included broad wage increases, become amendable starting in 2019. But negotiations are currently underway at other airlines. Frontier Airlines' pilots will picket outside Frontier's Denver headquarters on 7 March to protest their lack of a new contract, according to the Air Line Pilots Association, International (ALPA). Frontier and the union have been negotiating for three years, ALPA says. Meanwhile, the APA is in negotiations with freight carriers including Atlas Air, Polar Air World Cargo and Southern Air Cargo (all units of Atlas Air Worldwide Holdings), and with ABX Air. The APA also remains in negotiations with pilots at regional carriers Cape Air and Silver Airways. |
so...TA details??
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Congratulations on the new TA, folks!
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Originally Posted by Elevation
(Post 2546412)
Congratulations on the new TA, folks!
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Congratulations
Congratulations on the new TA. Long overdue.
Originally Posted by AU MD FLYER
(Post 2546251)
Well, here is the article posted on FlightGlobal regarding the *NEW* Omni Air Int'l pay rates. AU...
Omni Air to set new high for first officer pay: union 07 March, 2018 SOURCE: Flight Dashboard BY: Jon Hemmerdinger Boston The US charter carrier Omni Air International may have set a new high-water mark for pilot pay, agreeing to a contract that will make its first-year first officers the highest-paid in the US industry, according to its pilots' union. That union, the Airline Professionals Association, Teamsters Local 1224 (APA), says the deal, if ratified, could have broad implications in the US airline industry, serving as a precursor to broader wage growth. "It sets a precedence," says Greg Unterseher, director of representation at APA, an affiliate of the International Brotherhood of Teamsters. "[Omni] is a very small carrier. The more-capitalised carriers could easily raise well above this level." "I think it is illustrative of where we are going," he adds. Under the new agreement, Omni, which operates three Boeing 777s and nine Boeing 767s, will pay first-year first officers $113.02 per hour, up 61% from the currently rate of roughly $70 per hour, the APA says. Omni first officers with 12 years of service could earn $201.17 per hour under the new rates. "The agreement includes major increases in pay that make Omni’s starting first officer salaries the highest in the US airline industry," the union says. "Many Omni pilots operating under the agreement will see their pay more than double during its four-year term." The deal calls for "first-year" captains to earn $169.23 per hour, a 54% bump from the current rate of $109.81 per hour. Captains with ten years of service could earn $297.72 per hour, the union says. "I've never seen that in my career," Unterseher says of the gains. "The old captain [pay] scale became the first officer scale." The deal also provides better benefits, including first-class travel for pilots deadheading on flights longer than three hours, says the union. Tulsa-based Omni did not respond to a request for comment. The union says the airline agreed to the tentative deal on 28 February after more than two-and-a-half years of negotiations. Omni's roughly 250 pilots will vote on whether to ratify the deal in late March, adds the APA. Unterseher says the agreement was hard fought for by the union, adding that it partly reflects a tight pilot labour market. Pilots are "a scare resource right now", he says. "To attract pilots, you are going to have to pay where the market is. There is no way around it." Most US passenger airlines, including majors like American Airlines, Delta Air Lines, Southwest Airlines and United Airlines, signed new pilot contracts in recent years. Those deals, which included broad wage increases, become amendable starting in 2019. But negotiations are currently underway at other airlines. Frontier Airlines' pilots will picket outside Frontier's Denver headquarters on 7 March to protest their lack of a new contract, according to the Air Line Pilots Association, International (ALPA). Frontier and the union have been negotiating for three years, ALPA says. Meanwhile, the APA is in negotiations with freight carriers including Atlas Air, Polar Air World Cargo and Southern Air Cargo (all units of Atlas Air Worldwide Holdings), and with ABX Air. The APA also remains in negotiations with pilots at regional carriers Cape Air and Silver Airways. |
Anyone know how long it takes to get an interview from the time you submit an application?
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I applied very early September 2017 by submitting my resume to the email listed on the Omni careers page. Mid October they emailed me a full application. Less than a week after completing that they invited me to interview in early November.
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That's all likely to go out the window if the TA is ratified. K4 got really "professional" with their new contract at first. Went from one week calls to two month calls.
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Thanks for the info GraceMonth and aviatorhi
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Originally Posted by aviatorhi
(Post 2548217)
That's all likely to go out the window if the TA is ratified. K4 got really "professional" with their new contract at first. Went from one week calls to two month calls.
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Originally Posted by AU MD FLYER
(Post 2546251)
Well, here is the article posted on FlightGlobal regarding the *NEW* Omni Air Int'l pay rates. AU...
Omni Air to set new high for first officer pay: union 07 March, 2018 SOURCE: Flight Dashboard BY: Jon Hemmerdinger Boston The US charter carrier Omni Air International may have set a new high-water mark for pilot pay, agreeing to a contract that will make its first-year first officers the highest-paid in the US industry, according to its pilots' union. That union, the Airline Professionals Association, Teamsters Local 1224 (APA), says the deal, if ratified, could have broad implications in the US airline industry, serving as a precursor to broader wage growth. "It sets a precedence," says Greg Unterseher, director of representation at APA, an affiliate of the International Brotherhood of Teamsters. "[Omni] is a very small carrier. The more-capitalised carriers could easily raise well above this level." "I think it is illustrative of where we are going," he adds. Under the new agreement, Omni, which operates three Boeing 777s and nine Boeing 767s, will pay first-year first officers $113.02 per hour, up 61% from the currently rate of roughly $70 per hour, the APA says. Omni first officers with 12 years of service could earn $201.17 per hour under the new rates. "The agreement includes major increases in pay that make Omni’s starting first officer salaries the highest in the US airline industry," the union says. "Many Omni pilots operating under the agreement will see their pay more than double during its four-year term." The deal calls for "first-year" captains to earn $169.23 per hour, a 54% bump from the current rate of $109.81 per hour. Captains with ten years of service could earn $297.72 per hour, the union says. "I've never seen that in my career," Unterseher says of the gains. "The old captain [pay] scale became the first officer scale." The deal also provides better benefits, including first-class travel for pilots deadheading on flights longer than three hours, says the union. Tulsa-based Omni did not respond to a request for comment. The union says the airline agreed to the tentative deal on 28 February after more than two-and-a-half years of negotiations. Omni's roughly 250 pilots will vote on whether to ratify the deal in late March, adds the APA. Unterseher says the agreement was hard fought for by the union, adding that it partly reflects a tight pilot labour market. Pilots are "a scare resource right now", he says. "To attract pilots, you are going to have to pay where the market is. There is no way around it." Most US passenger airlines, including majors like American Airlines, Delta Air Lines, Southwest Airlines and United Airlines, signed new pilot contracts in recent years. Those deals, which included broad wage increases, become amendable starting in 2019. But negotiations are currently underway at other airlines. Frontier Airlines' pilots will picket outside Frontier's Denver headquarters on 7 March to protest their lack of a new contract, according to the Air Line Pilots Association, International (ALPA). Frontier and the union have been negotiating for three years, ALPA says. Meanwhile, the APA is in negotiations with freight carriers including Atlas Air, Polar Air World Cargo and Southern Air Cargo (all units of Atlas Air Worldwide Holdings), and with ABX Air. The APA also remains in negotiations with pilots at regional carriers Cape Air and Silver Airways. |
Originally Posted by PW4060
(Post 2555095)
The monthly guarantee currently stands at 60 hours and I understand most don't break guarantee; is that going up too?
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Originally Posted by aviatorhi
(Post 2555127)
64 and days 17 and 18 are paid at a premium if not at home.
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Originally Posted by Beans
(Post 2555166)
Almost all other airlines do almost 80 hours of credit for 14-15 days of work.
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Originally Posted by aviatorhi
(Post 2555127)
64 and days 17 and 18 are paid at a premium if not at home.
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Such as all regionals and legacy 121 carriers.
Originally Posted by Formerbuspilot
(Post 2555332)
....Such as??
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Originally Posted by Paperboi
(Post 2555486)
Such as all regionals and legacy 121 carriers.
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Originally Posted by Beans
(Post 2555166)
So you have to work 18 days to get 75 credit hours? Are you serious? Almost all other airlines do almost 80 hours of credit for 14-15 days of work. So when you see those numbers take into factor that its normal to only get 64 hours of credit.
Originally Posted by Paperboi
(Post 2555486)
Such as all regionals and legacy 121 carriers.
Don't rise to the bait. |
Originally Posted by PW4060
(Post 2555478)
Based on guarantee and hourly rate only, this is actually better than Kalitta which some see as the new standard in Charter/ACMI. Hmmm.
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Originally Posted by HercDriver130
(Post 2555525)
Just for clarification.. at Kalitta IF you were not home by day 16... and it was day 17...thats a 6 hour penalty to the company.. same for each successive day.. and if you flew on those days it would be at 150%.. but lets just say you were traveling home on those days.. it would be 6 extra day 17 and 6 more day 18... PLUS the dh pay for your commute home.
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Originally Posted by aviatorhi
(Post 2555498)
You mean like Delta with 65 hours?
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Originally Posted by Beans
(Post 2555166)
..... Almost all other airlines do almost 80 hours of credit for 14-15 days of work.......
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Or or or, live in base sit reserve in your own house in sweatpants work 35 hours on average (I’m at 11 for the month) get paid 75 with min 14 days off and the ability to swap drop reserve days online and or assign yourself an easy 3 day trip going south in the winter with one / two legs a day if you can tell there are a lot of trips in OT and they will probably assign you something ..
Listen if you are happy I’m happy for you. But don’t try and paint a picture that for most is simply not true. Delta like most airlines pays about 80 hours for an avg line with 15 days off. That’s a normal line. Nothing special. And even my regional was like that. I rather sit home do literally nothing though and get paid 75 hours and work the occasional turn when bored of Netflix. |
We got rid of the one set of meddlers and now we've got another set.
If ACMI ain't your thing go run along and sit reserve in EWR. I'll keep living internationally and watching Netflix in a hotel instead of a basement. |
Try west coast in a nice house. I avoid ewr. I get my international fix flying for free business class every other month to see my family in Europe. Nice try though. Don’t get the hostility. I think these rates are a great step in the right direction and am super glad for you (and the industry). Just don’t get why people feel the need to paint a picture that is only true for some to make themselves feel superior.
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Originally Posted by aviatorhi
(Post 2555952)
We got rid of the one set of meddlers and now we've got another set...
https://images.duckduckgo.com/iu/?u=...pid%3D15.1&f=1 |
Originally Posted by Cujo665
(Post 2555904)
You mean all those places that you have to fight to get to/from work jumpseating so you can sit in a crashpad on reserve while we enjoy all our days off, never looking at a single flight schedule, and then get on our company provide positive space seat to/from our trips with no crashpads, always a hotel provided every night away from home, while you’re buying hotels in base, and we’re keeping all the hotel points and air miles so when vacation comes.... our family rides positive space executive platinum awards while you’re waiting standby, and we stay for free in a Sheraton, Marriot or Hilton using points..... and with the other hidden soft money it isn’t that far behind when it’s all factored in.
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qol
Can anyone tell me how the QOL at Omni is? How many days are you typically gone from home? On/ off?
Ryan |
Originally Posted by FL450
(Post 2556003)
Ray since when do you work for Omni.... your name has never been on our seniority list!
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What kind of hotels do omni pilots stay in and do they keep all points as well as airline points? Thanks!
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