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threeholeblower 09-15-2018 12:53 PM

Its called Business 101. Expenses, profits and margins. Airlines fly passengers and freight from point A to point B, for profit. Legacy airlines have tremendous overhead fixed costs. Computer reservation systems, ticket counters, gates, jet ways, baggage carts, tugs, Employees, etc. Swift has none of these fixed expenses, but rather contracts them on an as needed basis. Legacy airlines would welcome charter flights, for pre - determined profit margin. Swift under bids other airlines, is awarded contracts and produces greater profit margins than that of a legacy airline due to less overhead. Swift has professional pilots, flying major league aircraft for 1/3 industry standard wages, this adds to their profitability. Legacy airlines do not have that option.! Therefore, legacy airlines avoid unprofitable ventures. That’s Business 101.
Loved that 727, It looked like it was doing 500 miles an hour, chocked on the ramp!

mexipilot84 09-15-2018 03:46 PM


Originally Posted by threeholeblower (Post 2674843)
Its called Business 101. Expenses, profits and margins. Airlines fly passengers and freight from point A to point B, for profit. Legacy airlines have tremendous overhead fixed costs. Computer reservation systems, ticket counters, gates, jet ways, baggage carts, tugs, Employees, etc. Swift has none of these fixed expenses, but rather contracts them on an as needed basis. Legacy airlines would welcome charter flights, for pre - determined profit margin. Swift under bids other airlines, is awarded contracts and produces greater profit margins than that of a legacy airline due to less overhead. Swift has professional pilots, flying major league aircraft for 1/3 industry standard wages, this adds to their profitability. Legacy airlines do not have that option.! Therefore, legacy airlines avoid unprofitable ventures. That’s Business 101.
Loved that 727, It looked like it was doing 500 miles an hour, chocked on the ramp!



Amen couldn’t have said it better myself

filejw 09-15-2018 03:59 PM


Originally Posted by threeholeblower (Post 2674843)
Its called Business 101. Expenses, profits and margins. Airlines fly passengers and freight from point A to point B, for profit. Legacy airlines have tremendous overhead fixed costs. Computer reservation systems, ticket counters, gates, jet ways, baggage carts, tugs, Employees, etc. Swift has none of these fixed expenses, but rather contracts them on an as needed basis. Legacy airlines would welcome charter flights, for pre - determined profit margin. Swift under bids other airlines, is awarded contracts and produces greater profit margins than that of a legacy airline due to less overhead. Swift has professional pilots, flying major league aircraft for 1/3 industry standard wages, this adds to their profitability. Legacy airlines do not have that option.! Therefore, legacy airlines avoid unprofitable ventures. That’s Business 101.
Loved that 727, It looked like it was doing 500 miles an hour, chocked on the ramp!

I'm to lazy to look up the post or web site but say 10 years ago a poster was complaining about the legacy airlines underbidding the charter outfits on military charters. Somebody took the time to do a little research and surprise they did not underbid their cost are less. Fuel, ins, maintenance, parts, landing fees, overflight fees, lease and debt and in some cases up to 50% less. Everything but crew cost. If the big guys are not flying charters its because those airplanes are making more money on the line. Most likely why I could fly mostly charters in winter last 10 years of my time . Don't think things have changed much either. :)

And yes 727 was best ride ever...

SoFloFlyer 09-15-2018 04:12 PM

Have a contact at Eastern and he said that he’s been flying with a Swift callsign. Any info on the merger and what the hiring mins are? He’s on the 767 out of MIA has a great QOL. Just something on my radar is all.

mexipilot84 09-15-2018 04:19 PM


Originally Posted by SoFloFlyer (Post 2674950)
Have a contact at Eastern and he said that he’s been flying with a Swift callsign. Any info on the merger and what the hiring mins are? He’s on the 767 out of MIA has a great QOL. Just something on my radar is all.



That’s when Eastern is doing sub flying for Swift. Swift does sub flying for world Atlantic as well and has used the Doral call sign.

SoFloFlyer 09-15-2018 04:21 PM


Originally Posted by mexipilot84 (Post 2674954)
That’s when Eastern is doing sub flying for Swift. Swift does sub flying for world Atlantic as well and has used the Doral call sign.

Makes sense. Thanks for the reply. Anyone have info on hiring mins?

mexipilot84 09-15-2018 04:54 PM


Originally Posted by SoFloFlyer (Post 2674956)
Makes sense. Thanks for the reply. Anyone have info on hiring mins?



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TiredSoul 09-15-2018 04:55 PM


Originally Posted by SoFloFlyer (Post 2674956)
Makes sense. Thanks for the reply. Anyone have info on hiring mins?

Did you miss the first couple of posts?

SoFloFlyer 09-15-2018 09:24 PM


Originally Posted by mexipilot84 (Post 2674976)
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Thanks!
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SoFloFlyer 09-15-2018 09:24 PM


Originally Posted by TiredSoul (Post 2674977)
Did you miss the first couple of posts?

Apparently


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