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Cujo665 02-07-2024 09:35 AM


Originally Posted by JohnBurke (Post 3760269)
Miami Air, Atlas, Omni, Kalitta, National, Amerijet, Eastern, et al, are ACMI operators. The operating certificate is 14 CFR 121. It doesn't matter if empty "part 91" legs are flown to reposition the airplane; all pilots flying for that operation do so under Part 121, becasue it's an airline: a 121 operator. There are various types of 121 operations and flying, but the age 65 cutoff applies to them all. Therefore, if you're flying for Miami, Swift (or whatever it's called this week), and so on, you're a 121 airline pilot, subject to mandatory age restrictions.

That number may soon increase to age 67 under pending legislation, but may not. Presently, the mandatory retirement age is 65. See 14 CFR 121.383(d) &(e):

https://www.ecfr.gov/current/title-1...ection-121.383



To continue beyond age 65 with a carrier who operates under Part 91 only, you'd need to go with a charter operator (part 135), corporate operator, private flight department, etc.

You can act as an instructor under Part 121, above age 65.

Fractional operations may be another option.


you may also operate as a contractor that only flys part the part 91 flights…. Unless that’s been changed.

part 91 and part 135 both allow flying past 65.
part 91 & 91k have no restrictions except passing all your checks and Medicals. Part 135 has some new age restrictions that apply under certain conditions, I believe it’s to age 70. But in general part 135 is fly till you can’t pass anymore too

Sandpit 02-08-2024 02:31 AM


Originally Posted by Cujo665 (Post 3765511)

you may also operate as a contractor that only flys part the part 91 flights…. Unless that’s been changed.

part 91 and part 135 both allow flying past 65.
part 91 & 91k have no restrictions except passing all your checks and Medicals. Part 135 has some new age restrictions that apply under certain conditions, I believe it’s to age 70. But in general part 135 is fly till you can’t pass anymore too

The age 70 thing is for NetJets I believe.

Cujo665 02-11-2024 03:38 PM


Originally Posted by Sandpit (Post 3765833)
The age 70 thing is for NetJets I believe.

My understandmg is it's for any 135 that chooses to utilize that section. Netjets wants to ditch their experienced more expensive Captains. Could be wrong.....

vf45 02-12-2024 09:44 PM

I don't think Miami Air is hiring....

atpwannabe 02-14-2024 12:10 PM


Originally Posted by Cujo665 (Post 3765511)

you may also operate as a contractor that only flys part the part 91 flights…. Unless that’s been changed.

part 91 and part 135 both allow flying past 65.
part 91 & 91k have no restrictions except passing all your checks and Medicals. Part 135 has some new age restrictions that apply under certain conditions, I believe it’s to age 70. But in general part 135 is fly till you can’t pass anymore too

This is promising. I mean, with all these wellness programs that healthcare providers and companies offer, it stands to reason that people are living healthier lives and living longer. My best fit...Part 91.


atp

JohnBurke 02-14-2024 01:11 PM

Keep in mind that Part 91 operations (eg, corporate) typically have personnel on board with a an individual net worth that exceeds an entire 737 worth of passengers; these corporate types usually want an experienced pilot flying for them, and the insurance will demand it, too.

AirBear 02-19-2024 11:06 AM


Originally Posted by Cujo665 (Post 3767588)
My understandmg is it's for any 135 that chooses to utilize that section. Netjets wants to ditch their experienced more expensive Captains. Could be wrong.....

I believe with the way the rule was written it only applies to NetJets and Flight Options. They're the only ones with enough operations per year to trigger the age 70 retirement should they want to do so.

NetJet's reason for doing so was pax complaining about the elderly pilots combined with those pilots playing the 3 year sick leave game.


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