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02-07-2024, 09:35 AM
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Originally Posted by JohnBurke
Miami Air, Atlas, Omni, Kalitta, National, Amerijet, Eastern, et al, are ACMI operators. The operating certificate is 14 CFR 121. It doesn't matter if empty "part 91" legs are flown to reposition the airplane; all pilots flying for that operation do so under Part 121, becasue it's an airline: a 121 operator. There are various types of 121 operations and flying, but the age 65 cutoff applies to them all. Therefore, if you're flying for Miami, Swift (or whatever it's called this week), and so on, you're a 121 airline pilot, subject to mandatory age restrictions.
That number may soon increase to age 67 under pending legislation, but may not. Presently, the mandatory retirement age is 65. See 14 CFR 121.383(d) &(e):
https://www.ecfr.gov/current/title-1...ection-121.383
To continue beyond age 65 with a carrier who operates under Part 91 only, you'd need to go with a charter operator (part 135), corporate operator, private flight department, etc.
You can act as an instructor under Part 121, above age 65.
Fractional operations may be another option.
That number may soon increase to age 67 under pending legislation, but may not. Presently, the mandatory retirement age is 65. See 14 CFR 121.383(d) &(e):
https://www.ecfr.gov/current/title-1...ection-121.383
To continue beyond age 65 with a carrier who operates under Part 91 only, you'd need to go with a charter operator (part 135), corporate operator, private flight department, etc.
You can act as an instructor under Part 121, above age 65.
Fractional operations may be another option.
you may also operate as a contractor that only flys part the part 91 flights…. Unless that’s been changed.
part 91 and part 135 both allow flying past 65.
part 91 & 91k have no restrictions except passing all your checks and Medicals. Part 135 has some new age restrictions that apply under certain conditions, I believe it’s to age 70. But in general part 135 is fly till you can’t pass anymore too
02-08-2024, 02:31 AM
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Originally Posted by Cujo665
you may also operate as a contractor that only flys part the part 91 flights…. Unless that’s been changed.
part 91 and part 135 both allow flying past 65.
part 91 & 91k have no restrictions except passing all your checks and Medicals. Part 135 has some new age restrictions that apply under certain conditions, I believe it’s to age 70. But in general part 135 is fly till you can’t pass anymore too
02-11-2024, 03:38 PM
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Originally Posted by Sandpit
The age 70 thing is for NetJets I believe.
02-14-2024, 12:10 PM
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Originally Posted by Cujo665
you may also operate as a contractor that only flys part the part 91 flights…. Unless that’s been changed.
part 91 and part 135 both allow flying past 65.
part 91 & 91k have no restrictions except passing all your checks and Medicals. Part 135 has some new age restrictions that apply under certain conditions, I believe it’s to age 70. But in general part 135 is fly till you can’t pass anymore too
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02-14-2024, 01:11 PM
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Keep in mind that Part 91 operations (eg, corporate) typically have personnel on board with a an individual net worth that exceeds an entire 737 worth of passengers; these corporate types usually want an experienced pilot flying for them, and the insurance will demand it, too.
02-19-2024, 11:06 AM
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Originally Posted by Cujo665
My understandmg is it's for any 135 that chooses to utilize that section. Netjets wants to ditch their experienced more expensive Captains. Could be wrong.....
NetJet's reason for doing so was pax complaining about the elderly pilots combined with those pilots playing the 3 year sick leave game.
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