Airline Pilot Central Forums

Airline Pilot Central Forums (https://www.airlinepilotforums.com/)
-   Charter (https://www.airlinepilotforums.com/charter/)
-   -   New Eastern?? (https://www.airlinepilotforums.com/charter/84817-new-eastern.html)

Coke Pilot 06-10-2015 07:19 PM


Originally Posted by Seaboard World (Post 1900624)
Yea, a little more info is needed. Relocating to MIA might be a deal breaker…..

I went to the interview, very professional, the Normal questions. Everyone is hire as FO but train as Capt including OE, and as the capt seat is available you upgrade to capt for the first 6 classes. After the six class everyone will train as FO. Good chances that by the time you finish training you can hold the capt seat. Guarantee is 70 hours 1 year pay 110, 2nd 120, 3 =130, 4=140, 5=150. Over 85 hours is 125% and days off 150%. Junior assignment 200%. First year 5 days vacation second year 10 days & fifth year 15 days. Personal days off (PTO)5 per year. That you can use for sick days also. Medical, 401K short and long term disability, including lost of license insurance.
Second airplane by the end of June, third by July and four by August; they are expecting to have 5 aircraft by December. By February they are expecting 2 new airplane from factory due to order cancelled from other companies. According to the DO 10 B737-800 and 10 737 max on orders plus 20 MRJ. With options of up to 40. And they also plan to have a hangar running by the end 2017.
Received the call today for class on June 25 and I am taking it.
Hope this help to make futures candidates decisions .

sheers.

VF32TomCat 06-10-2015 07:42 PM

Eastern plans to go schedule in 4 to 5 months and is opening a hangar in MIA.

Eastern Air Lines CEO Edward Wegel outlines goals for expansion at Miami chamber luncheon - South Florida Business Journal

f10a 06-10-2015 09:50 PM

What kind of schedule and days off can be expected?

NG pilot 06-11-2015 04:34 AM


Originally Posted by f10a (Post 1901538)
What kind of schedule and days off can be expected?

For the moment the lines are mix with regular Schdl and Reserve line and you have 13 days off.

hoover 06-11-2015 10:53 AM

Blocks of time off or days scattered throughout? Home based or Mia based?

VF32TomCat 06-11-2015 05:59 PM


Originally Posted by Coke Pilot (Post 1901439)
I went to the interview, very professional, the Normal questions. Everyone is hire as FO but train as Capt including OE, and as the capt seat is available you upgrade to capt for the first 6 classes. After the six class everyone will train as FO. Good chances that by the time you finish training you can hold the capt seat. Guarantee is 70 hours 1 year pay 110, 2nd 120, 3 =130, 4=140, 5=150. Over 85 hours is 125% and days off 150%. Junior assignment 200%. First year 5 days vacation second year 10 days & fifth year 15 days. Personal days off (PTO)5 per year. That you can use for sick days also. Medical, 401K short and long term disability, including lost of license insurance.
Second airplane by the end of June, third by July and four by August; they are expecting to have 5 aircraft by December. By February they are expecting 2 new airplane from factory due to order cancelled from other companies. According to the DO 10 B737-800 and 10 737 max on orders plus 20 MRJ. With options of up to 40. And they also plan to have a hangar running by the end 2017.
Received the call today for class on June 25 and I am taking it.
Hope this help to make futures candidates decisions .

sheers.


The lost of license insurance is paid half & half. The pilot group are Miami Base. And up to now they do not have a 13 day off blocks, the line are mix between work and days off. Great company hope the company do ok and grow as plan.

f10a 06-11-2015 07:32 PM

Any jumpseat agreements or is one required to live in Miami? Or is it like most other Miami outfits that hire only "locals"?

hoover 06-12-2015 11:36 AM

can someone post a typical roster? Trying to see if its commutable or not.

Coke Pilot 06-12-2015 07:12 PM


Originally Posted by hoover (Post 1903134)
can someone post a typical roster? Trying to see if its commutable or not.

The Lines are combine between flying and reserve for example four days on flying to Havana and four days off, then five days on (reserve), then 5 days off, 8 days on and 4 days off. Or 7 days off, 8 days on , 6 days off and 9 days on. All depends on the amount of flying, at least into we start flying schdl lines.
The company is working on jump seat agreement at this time . And you do not need live in or to be a Miami resident in order to work for Eastern.

f10a 06-13-2015 12:04 AM

Coke pilot... I'm confused. A few posts back you said you were the ex chief pilot of EAL, then said you sent in your resume. A few days later you said you attended the interview. Now it sounds like you're already flying the line.

All this sounds like a pump and dump penny stock bunch of horse****e. Which is it? Between what you post and what NG pilot posts it appears you 2 have been on the inside all along and are not very forthcoming on what the real employment conditions entail. Just saying...

FSF17 06-13-2015 05:50 AM

...and why do all the posters who are "in the know" write like English is their fourth language?

pilotgolfer 06-13-2015 06:45 AM


Originally Posted by FSF17 (Post 1903767)
...and why do all the posters who are "in the know" write like English is their fourth language?

Have you been to Miami at all?

maddogmax 06-13-2015 06:59 AM


Originally Posted by FSF17 (Post 1903767)
...and why do all the posters who are "in the know" write like English is their fourth language?

Because it is!

FSF17 06-13-2015 07:31 AM

Been to Miami quite a bit... and I've seen a few of those new Eastern lanyard-wearers eating lunch at Downstairs/hanging out at Landmark. Those guys and every other pilot I've met in Miami seem to speak English perfectly well. Maybe I just need a bigger sample size.

Packrat 06-13-2015 07:36 AM


Originally Posted by pilotgolfer (Post 1903822)
Have you been to Miami at all?

Thanks. Now there's Diet Coke all over the Business Center keyboard.

Coke Pilot 06-13-2015 10:31 AM


Originally Posted by f10a (Post 1903681)
Coke pilot... I'm confused. A few posts back you said you were the ex chief pilot of EAL, then said you sent in your resume. A few days later you said you attended the interview. Now it sounds like you're already flying the line.

All this sounds like a pump and dump penny stock bunch of horse****e. Which is it? Between what you post and what NG pilot posts it appears you 2 have been on the inside all along and are not very forthcoming on what the real employment conditions entail. Just saying...

No F10a I never said I was a chief pilot or ex chief pilot or anything like that. I did said I have send my resume , later they called me for and interview and about two days ago they offered the position. And I took it. My class is starting in June 25. And if I posted the schedule is because it was explained to me during the interview. I hope you have a blessing day. And live your defensive attitude behind.
Just saying....

f10a 06-13-2015 11:35 AM


Originally Posted by Coke Pilot (Post 1904055)
No F10a I never said I was a chief pilot or ex chief pilot or anything like that. I did said I have send my resume , later they called me for and interview and about two days ago they offered the position. And I took it. My class is starting in June 25. And if I posted the schedule is because it was explained to me during the interview. I hope you have a blessing day. And live your defensive attitude behind.
Just saying....

A few pages back you wrote:


Originally Posted by Coke Pilot (Post 1897615)
Really don't know where you getting all this info that you are writing,

I am an eX- ATI ,the ex- chief pilot now the Ex- chief pilot from EAL DUE TO AGE,was let go from ATI for defending the pilot group if you didn't know, then management reverse it.

Sorry, I misread your post. Hard to follow your English!

Coke Pilot 06-13-2015 12:07 PM


Originally Posted by f10a (Post 1904097)
A few pages back you wrote:



Sorry, I misread your post. Hard to follow your English!

No worries , English is my second or maybe my third language....

hoover 06-16-2015 04:51 AM

Schedule looks commutable but with no CASS will the company buy tickets to/from work?

djlivex45 06-16-2015 08:15 AM

Sounds like a good deal if they fly you to work, just thinking.

f10a 06-16-2015 11:19 AM

Knowing Miami, my guess is that they are hiring locals from Miami Air and other bottom feeders scattered around the north side of the field. Guys don't stray too far from the likes of Centurion, Arrow, Skylease, Florida West etc.

Would be a refreshing change if that is not the case.

METO Guido 06-16-2015 01:34 PM

Bottom feeders, I suppose. Two things I can't do, blame a guy for his job or assume I'm better just because I got it better.

RIP Woody!

captjns 06-16-2015 04:37 PM


Originally Posted by f10a (Post 1906846)
Knowing Miami, my guess is that they are hiring locals from Miami Air and other bottom feeders scattered around the north side of the field. Guys don't stray too far from the likes of Centurion, Arrow, Skylease, Florida West etc.

Would be a refreshing change if that is not the case.

Gee... With an opinion As expressed by you, you sir truly must be the greatest contribution to aviation since the invention of sliced bread:rolleyes:

I have had the privilege of knowing and flying with some of the finest flyers who may have flown with the aforementioned carriers to which none have landed upside down, short of a runway in cavok, nor overshot a runway either.

Ace Hotshot 06-16-2015 05:46 PM

Who cares about pay and QOL? The pay and QOL stunk for every start-up...EVERY start-up....including Delta and FedEx. This could be a golden ground floor opportunity! The rebirth of EASTERN AIRLINES! Yeah baby!

f10a 06-16-2015 06:21 PM

My reference to Miami and the bottom feeders that are in abundance in the area is that it is no secret that south Florida pay is way below where it should be and kept low due to many working for low wages and undercutting their own whether it be airline, charter, or corporate.

That said, this could be a good start to get in at the beginning for sure.

DYNASTY HVY 06-16-2015 08:59 PM

You guys are killing me with these posts! South Fla. Is not the only place in Fl.where the pay is low in that state.

wallyp34 06-18-2015 02:34 PM

My question to anyone applying is simply this: where is this company going to fly to? How is this operation going to grow? Where will it grow? Are you going to serve small markets who have been neglected by the majors? I think Allegiant has that covered. Going to Havana? See AA, Jetblue, etc. My point is that the business model they have is pathetic and the chances of them out doing Spirit or any other established South Florida airline is slim at best. My advice to anyone applying with a clean record would be to go to a regional with a flow and suck it up for a couple of years. Your chances of staying violation free will increase exponentially by avoiding the "New Eastern."

captjns 06-18-2015 04:36 PM


Originally Posted by wallyp34 (Post 1909172)
Your chances of staying violation free will increase exponentially by avoiding the "New Eastern."

rathet arrogant statement as you not a member of the New EAL Club. Do post such flame just to post?

f10a 06-18-2015 07:04 PM

This thread makes one wonder if Spanish is the primary language of choice at the new Eastern.

captjns 06-19-2015 04:11 AM


Originally Posted by f10a (Post 1909442)
This thread makes one wonder if Spanish is the primary language of choice at the new Eastern.

Either flamer, troll or a bigot or combination thereof. Very disappointing.:mad:

cubguy 06-19-2015 05:49 AM


Originally Posted by captjns (Post 1909615)
Either flamer, troll or a bigot or combination thereof. Very disappointing.:mad:

I agree. They all fit, however just plane a$$ hole comes to mind.

badflaps 06-19-2015 06:43 AM


Originally Posted by cubguy (Post 1909674)
I agree. They all fit, however just plane a$$ hole comes to mind.

You guys might be a little harsh, when I check in in MIA, I get plenty of "vengas".......:D

DYNASTY HVY 06-20-2015 05:05 AM


Originally Posted by wallyp34 (Post 1909172)
My question to anyone applying is simply this: where is this company going to fly to? How is this operation going to grow? Where will it grow? Are you going to serve small markets who have been neglected by the majors? I think Allegiant has that covered. Going to Havana? See AA, Jetblue, etc. My point is that the business model they have is pathetic and the chances of them out doing Spirit or any other established South Florida airline is slim at best. My advice to anyone applying with a clean record would be to go to a regional with a flow and suck it up for a couple of years. Your chances of staying violation free will increase exponentially by avoiding the "New Eastern."

As long as Eastern does not nickel and dime it's pax as some of the aforementioned carriers do then they should be ok and only time will tell.

clear4approach 06-21-2015 12:18 PM


Originally Posted by DYNASTY HVY (Post 1910527)
As long as Eastern does not nickel and dime it's pax as some of the aforementioned carriers do then they should be ok and only time will tell.

I'm sure being a new start up with high debt and little cash, they're eager to offer all sorts of freebies.....

DYNASTY HVY 06-21-2015 04:06 PM


Originally Posted by clear4approach (Post 1911593)
I'm sure being a new start up with high debt and little cash, they're eager to offer all sorts of freebies.....

I stand by what I posted before and that is time will tell whether they sink or swim. Fred

White Cap 06-22-2015 03:25 AM


Originally Posted by f10a (Post 1906846)
Knowing Miami, my guess is that they are hiring locals from Miami Air and other bottom feeders scattered around the north side of the field. Guys don't stray too far from the likes of Centurion, Arrow, Skylease, Florida West etc.

Would be a refreshing change if that is not the case.

Unfortunately, you are spot on. I did a long sentence on 36th Street, and I can confirm that is exactly who has been offered positions. It took years to finally corrall these airlines into base Union agreements, sad to see new bottom feeders sprouting up like dandelions. Most of the people I worked with were not really great people either, mostly eastern scabs, guys with violations. What a motley crew.

METO Guido 06-22-2015 05:42 AM

Pulled a long one...Jolliet. Guys I was in with, worst of the worst. Sad to see anyone start an outfit with scumbags like that. I'm at AA now. North ramp MIA.

badflaps 06-22-2015 10:07 AM


Originally Posted by METO Guido (Post 1912170)
Pulled a long one...Jolliet. Guys I was in with, worst of the worst. Sad to see anyone start an outfit with scumbags like that. I'm at AA now. North ramp MIA.

Only one "L" in Joliet, didn't you see any signs?:D

METO Guido 06-26-2015 12:46 PM

Waiting in line for a sub was told by two recent hires pay so far less than discussed prior to start of training??? "It's been one thing after another" they claim.

captjns 06-27-2015 03:09 AM


Originally Posted by METO Guido (Post 1916065)
Waiting in line for a sub was told by two recent hires pay so far less than discussed prior to start of training??? "It's been one thing after another" they claim.

Would like to read first hand details from new hires to see if the company is fulfilling their terms and conditions as presented during the interview. Perhaps details on the company letterhead too.


All times are GMT -8. The time now is 11:59 PM.


Website Copyright © 2026 MH Sub I, LLC dba Internet Brands