New Eastern??
 

Any one with info on the "New Eastern"???

Soon to be latest ex-Eastern.

Packrat,

This is the FIRST one, what do you mean?

GF

Has anyone applied?

Don't pay attention to Packrat. He is retired and nothing better than to be a keyboard jockey.

Nice looking maggot all done up in Eastern colors on A net. Miami bit of a tough market for startups , good luck with that.

If the pay is right, they have a group they can hire from Miami Air.

if it gets off the ground those that get hired to fly there will find out quickly that it will not be a good place to work. The idea of working for the new Eastern will wear off fast when you find out how the management team functions. Watch this space. They still do not have a certificate and are having a number of problems with the FAA. Sadly it will be another MIA operator similar to World Atlantic, Miami Air, Amerijet etc... I would not leave a job to work for the new Eastern. Quite frankly the business plan makes no sense. MRJs?

Any information to substiate your claims, or is this just a rant?

My guess would be that it is just a rant. I applied, and I would likely go if the opportunity presented itself. I'm a 7 yr RJ FO without much to lose.

Think "New PeoplExpress." How long did that fiasco last? So you do have something to lose.

Having known the chief pilot when he was the VP of OPS at ATI, I think I can confirm what kind of operation the New Eastern will be. And it's not good.

Correct
 

No, it's NOT a rant! Have a real serious think about the new Eastern. A number of us have now spelled it out for you. You can chose to ignore it or realize it might be career ruining to go to work there. I assure you there will be some who find out the hard way about this operation and its management team. They do not have a good track record.:eek:

Follow this advice--lots of pilots have come to grief at EA. The strike breakers in particular.

GF

Very politely said sir.
Some get together and start their own airline...
No shortage of ex-Eastern "pilots" in MIAMI.

I know one of the management team, and he is a good guy. Not sure exactly where your facts come from.

The Business model
 

The new EAL was supposed to be flying by now but isn't. In order to have an airline you must have approval by the FAA at least. The process, although time consuming, should have been completed by now. This says a number of things,1) Financial issues, 2) Management issues, 3)The plan itself and the list goes on.

The new EAL has gone from 737, to Airbus to 737 and now MRJs. Although they have advertised for crews I do not believe they have hired anyone yet except management people many of who have, let's just say, interesting track records. This also includes a small office in the old building which the airport uses now.

So, I would say it is not going to get off the ground. If, however it does, then it will be similar to Falcon or World Atlantic. The new EAL will need vast resources and lots of money to attract and retain people in order for the plan to work. I do not believe this will happen. One airplane painted in the colors does not mean they are in business.

Trust me, watch this space.

EXCLUSIVE: Q&A with Eastern Airlines CEO Ed Wegel | Airchive

Sums up what i have already said I think

Economic authority granted by the DOT is one hurdle to get by. Although EW merely stated that they've answered the questions required by the DOT. Doesn't state whether the DOT has granted their approval.

It can take a very long time before the FAA team will put a certification team together.

There's nothing in the regs that a carrier can't start putting their manual systems together before the first meeting of the certification team and the EAL's 119 team.

A painted up aircraft, an airline does not make. A conformity check is required before the aircraft can be added to the certificate for proving runs.

Whatever else it may be, one thing it ain’t; The Wings of Man. Yet…
The 4 striper who when asked for his certificate produced the only one he had, A&P.
The medic who grew so bored balancing tanks he framed up a home cooked diploma to pursue his true calling, gynecology.
The wood chipper from the Boston base, so thorough nothing bigger than a fingernail did they find.
…maybe a “new” Eastern headline is just what the forum needs for Christmas.

Really don't know where you getting all this info that you are writing,

I am an eX- ATI ,the ex- chief pilot now the Ex- chief pilot from EAL DUE TO AGE,was let go from ATI for defending the pilot group if you didn't know, then management reverse it.

The CEO from the new EAL Mr. Wegel, Yes you are right, all the company that he put together are now close, but before you speak you should read and learn. He was payed to put together and open a company and he did and after his job was done, he was let go; If the company close 7 or 8 years later he is not to blame for, blame the new management team.

Admiral Owens was the Deputy Chief of Naval Operations for Resources, Warfare Requirements and Assessments. Bill Owens is the Chairman of AEA Investors ASIA, located in Hong Kong, and Executive Chairman of Prometheus Partners, based in Beijing. He serves on the Polycom, Wipro and Viasystems Group boards, as the Vice Chairman of the NYSE for Asia. Since 2007, Admiral Owens has been very active in significant Chinese- American relations including continuing dialogues between the most senior retired officers in the US and Chinese militaries and similar dialogues between very senior economists.

Joseph DaGrosa the JR director of EAL, is also a senior partner and co-founder of 1848, a merchant banking and investment fund. He has co-managed the firm since its founding in 2006 and approves all of the firm’s capital commitments. He also serves as co-chairman and a member of the board of directors for several 1848 portfolio companies, including Jet Support Services, Inc., The Franklin Mint, Sunbelt Diversified Enterprises LLC, Big Apple Entertainment Partners LLC, and London Bridge Entertainment Partners LLC.

The management team is great, I believe they can do it. New airplanes 10 B737-8 with the option of 10 more. And up to 46 MRJ.

Now do I like EASTERN AIR LINE, yes I do like it. I send my resume and I hope they hire me. And yes it is a risk a new company, but a risk that I am taking.

Do they require the pilots to live in FL.? Thanks

Let's see; retired Admiral former deputy chief of whatever & NYSE Asia running a senior Chinese military liaison, HKG hedge fund seed $$$, Sebu reef south china sea runway project. Eastern Airlines...vewy cleba.

Coke pilot I agree with you. I believe the company is moving forward and it is a great start, having new airplanes like the B737NG with and order of 10 new out of the factory airplanes from Boeing and 20 MRJ also out of the factory and not only that having your own simulators and hangar, to me it means money and a excellent start up operation. I really don't care where the money is coming from as long the money is spend in the USA and our pilots get new Job opportunities. The management team is strategically put together for a reason. I am a Airbus operator with previous B737NG experience, and would love to be part of the initial pilot group. I already send my resume. Interviewin on Tuesday June 9.

Not to contradict, I thought Juan N was Eastern's CP since he left Miami Air, and that was some time ago. Good man... Started as a spanner turner, worked al the way to the left seat on th NG. No one upgrades at Miami Air unless they make by the gate keeper, Strve "the little big man" J.

Anyway, it will be interesting to see what better mouse trap that EAL has to offer as apposed to Miami Air, a proven entity with cruise lines, tour operators, sports teams and the DoD. In addition I'll be surprised if American Airlines And Spirit will let them be a presence in their own backyard.

Well, they've done ok with Taco Bell and I did say JetBlue would never make it. So if it's not too much trouble, maybe a PIREP after your visit tomorrow?

Well, Meto Guido. I have To mention that the interview process was very professional, it was held by the Chief pilot Mr. Nunez (JN) and the director of operations with an HR lady. Normal question the tipical: why Eastern?, where do you expect to se your self 10 years from now?, what do you think about standarisation ? What is CRM ? What would you do if you flight with someone that is not following company standards?

Then he explain the salary, how many airplanes are they planning on having by The end of the year. Very positive feedback. I believe if they call you for an interview is because you have the Job.

Care to share more details regarding pay, schedule, benefits (jumpseat/cass, days off, vacation, per diem) required to live near Miami, etc....

Thank you NG pilot. I'm certain they take recruiting seriously. The panel obviously liked what they saw, congratulations. A lot of aircraft on order, going to be interesting. All the best.

Aircraft on order means absolutely nothing! Orders are cancelled all the time, especially if you go out of business.

No way! If that was true, then where would all the extra airplanes go?

Wonder where the Boeings are coming from. Did not see Eastern on the Boeing website as a customer.

They go to other customers. Happens all the time.

Aircraft Order Cancellations and Deferrals: Cause for Concern?

Perhaps they are coming from leasing companies like ILFC, GECAS etc..

Aircraft orders mean nothing. Until the airplane is on the ramp AND they bring the maintenance logs inside its a fantasy.

Guess who the launch customer for the MD-90 was. Guess how many aircraft ended up on the property.

That is a lot of two-tone blue paint to get rid of.

Yet another group of supremely confident super-salesmen have managed to get approved supplemental and begun selling charters, that's right, charters; under cloak of a legendary brand name that sank in an ocean of tears over two decades ago. A purportedly meter wide spigot of Yuan will finance the venture as their bulging order book of brand new hockey stick liveried 73's and MRJ's hit the ramp. You just can't make this stuff up.

Still waiting for NG Pilot to answer some questions about the interview....

I find it odd that all of this is a big mystery. Does not give much credibility to much of what is posted here.

Yea, a little more info is needed. Relocating to MIA might be a deal breaker…..