Outdated contract- now one of lowest paid
07-27-2019, 06:15 AM
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Originally Posted by My bag will fit
It is going to be interesting to see the mass exodus of junior FOs to the other well paying regionals. With all the FOs sitting reserve currently and no line in sight anytime soon, who would blame them if they go to another well paying regional. At least sitting reserve there, they will be flown more, paid more, have better QoL, and have a flow (because the CPP is awesome, right?) in their back pocket. Wouldn’t be too surprising to see the pilot group shrink back down to the low 300s in the next month or two between all the CAs and FOs leaving.
The real killer is going to be the guys that drop from CA pay back down to FO pay after the LOA expires in December.
07-27-2019, 06:38 AM
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Originally Posted by v1valarob
From what Im hearing most regionals aren't giving out classes within 2 weeks. Its about a 6 month wait. This is the reason we are getting people in the door. They apply with Republic, Endeavor and Commutair and then Commutair offers a class next month and Republic and Endeavor offer one in January. Even if you sit reserve for 5 months you'll still be building hours at Commutair before you even have a chance to sit reserve at another regional.
I'm actually sorta surprised no one has stopped the new hire bonuses. Most places sound like they are full and unless they're being more selective (and C5 isn't selective at all), they can cut down on the bonuses and keep getting FOs.
07-27-2019, 04:08 PM
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Originally Posted by v1valarob
From what Im hearing most regionals aren't giving out classes within 2 weeks. Its about a 6 month wait. This is the reason we are getting people in the door. They apply with Republic, Endeavor and Commutair and then Commutair offers a class next month and Republic and Endeavor offer one in January. Even if you sit reserve for 5 months you'll still be building hours at Commutair before you even have a chance to sit reserve at another regional.
The real killer is going to be the guys that drop from CA pay back down to FO pay after the LOA expires in December.
The real killer is going to be the guys that drop from CA pay back down to FO pay after the LOA expires in December.
What??? Please explain!!!
07-27-2019, 05:15 PM
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Originally Posted by Whatmeworry
What??? Please explain!!!
So even if you sit reserve for 5 months, you’re building time at CommutAir before you even begin flying at another regional.
The real killer will be when they drop the FOs pay back down when the LOA expires.
07-27-2019, 07:24 PM
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Originally Posted by v1valarob
From what Im hearing most regionals aren't giving out classes within 2 weeks. Its about a 6 month wait. This is the reason we are getting people in the door. They apply with Republic, Endeavor and Commutair and then Commutair offers a class next month and Republic and Endeavor offer one in January. Even if you sit reserve for 5 months you'll still be building hours at Commutair before you even have a chance to sit reserve at another regional.
The real killer is going to be the guys that drop from CA pay back down to FO pay after the LOA expires in December.
The real killer is going to be the guys that drop from CA pay back down to FO pay after the LOA expires in December.
07-27-2019, 08:48 PM
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Originally Posted by dmspilot
Do you mean DEC's are getting classes within two weeks? Otherwise CommutAir is a 6 month wait just like the others you mentioned.
07-28-2019, 06:49 AM
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Originally Posted by Workhard
FOs are having to wait because we are fat on FOs. DEC will start ASAP since we are short captains. They have classes every two weeks that start, but they need it be as much as captains as possible.
07-30-2019, 03:40 AM
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I wouldn’t worry about them stopping DEC hiring anytime soon. There is a reason they upped the sign on bonus AND they now offer us a 10k referral bonus for DEC candidates. We have something like 70 more FOs than CA in EWR, which for a company with a seniority list in the 400s and still trying to take planes, is a big gap.
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