Turbanpilot

Got the email for the extension. For how long? Couldn't find any specifics in either the email or the MTA.

EMBFlyer

I don't think the company has asked for an extension, yet. The BOD just set out a procedure for when they do.

AUpilot1

From an APA e-mail yesterday......

In the afternoon, the board approved a motion to direct the president to "respond in the affirmative to the Company's request for a JCBA timeline extension under JCBA para. 27 of the MOU with the quid of:

Retroactivity to a date that prevents the pilots from losing compensation including, but not limited to any pension adjustments due to the extension and
All T/A'd items to date are agreed to and not subject to any potential future arbitration process, and
That the extension shall allow time for the APA to conclude its membership ratification process."

Name User

Sounds like Doug & CO are getting a glimpse of what it's like to work with some true professionals on our side! Go get 'em, boys.

Turbanpilot

So how long is the extension good for? 2 weeks, 1 month, 6 months, 5yrs(I hope not)?

justfun

It will be just long enough for the FA's vote to be finalized, say 10 Nov. I think that is the date. Then if that is a yes vote we will have our deal announced. if it is a no vote, expect another extension. Think about the strategic reasons behind all of this, and you will get your answers.

algflyr

It's a 30 day extension if the company accepts it..

The company asked the APA to agree to a 30 day extension. The BOD directed the APA President to accept the extension with a few conditions. It's up to the company if they accept those conditions... I'm sure they will. The conditions were retro pay so pay implementation not effected by this delay and anything already agreed on cannot be re-opened...

nwa757

The FA's Delta plus 10% will be used as leverage for us. They vote early Nov. Thats why this is happening, according to someone high up at APA. If they vote yes then we will demand the same... Delta plus some percent.

EMBFlyer

I seriously hope they also include Delta work rules, etc. I hope someone is looking beyond Section 3 because a couple of Negotiating Committee updates ago contained a lot of "No"s.

eaglefly

Yes. Again, either our contract is equal to Delta's (true parity) or it's substandard. This includes ALL sections. Horton BLEW his opportunity to make a good first impression and that toppled his fiefdom. Now, Parker has still yet to finish writing his first impression, so this issue will define the future "new" American Airlines.

If Parker refuses to match Delta and/or takes advantage of arbitration he'll win, but at what cost ?

All that will ensure is an angry, distrustful and uncooperative group of 15,000 pilots that make the airline run and anchor the product produced by others. If we end up going down that same old well worn road of past failure, Parker will simply be telling Wall Street and the world that the "new" American Airlines will still essentially be the "old" American Airlines and that Airline was not a leader. It would be a VERY bad foundation with which to build what he supposedly wants to build. Even if circumstances change things for the better for the pilots down the road, trust and cooperation will remain casualties of playing a hand that has always lost in the past and the New AA will likely never reach its true potential.