Compass Reserve; Anything and Everything
08-30-2017, 09:44 PM
#31
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Veewan is just our naysayer. Morale had been on the upswing til the vacation thing...
That said, Horizon is also buying back vacations and Skywest is junior manning people like crazy, so these problems are hardly unique to our little west coast regional.
Still, it's wrong and hopefully the company realizes that in time.
That said, Horizon is also buying back vacations and Skywest is junior manning people like crazy, so these problems are hardly unique to our little west coast regional.
Still, it's wrong and hopefully the company realizes that in time.
08-30-2017, 10:12 PM
#32
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Originally Posted by TillerTemptress
Veewan is just our naysayer. Morale had been on the upswing til the vacation thing...
That said, Horizon is also buying back vacations and Skywest is junior manning people like crazy, so these problems are hardly unique to our little west coast regional.
Still, it's wrong and hopefully the company realizes that in time.
That said, Horizon is also buying back vacations and Skywest is junior manning people like crazy, so these problems are hardly unique to our little west coast regional.
Still, it's wrong and hopefully the company realizes that in time.
08-31-2017, 04:30 AM
#34
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Originally Posted by TillerTemptress
Veewan is just our naysayer. Morale had been on the upswing til the vacation thing...
That said, Horizon is also buying back vacations and Skywest is junior manning people like crazy, so these problems are hardly unique to our little west coast regional.
Still, it's wrong and hopefully the company realizes that in time.
That said, Horizon is also buying back vacations and Skywest is junior manning people like crazy, so these problems are hardly unique to our little west coast regional.
Still, it's wrong and hopefully the company realizes that in time.
Context is important if you are going to repeat what they are saying.
That's a serious question. From my knowledge SkyWest does not force pilots to cover trips, and they have the flexibility to offer 200% or more on voluntary "junior manning"
Compass might force people to cover trips with the vacation buy-back, but its a terrible deal. They make 150% sound better than it actually works out mathematically... yes its 150% of your vacation credit, but for the month you'd be better off picking up critical pay trips.
Last edited by veewan; 08-31-2017 at 04:53 AM.
08-31-2017, 04:43 AM
#35
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Originally Posted by TillerTemptress
Just repeating what I hear from friends. People are talking about it in your Skywest thread even. Feel free to correct the record. 
08-31-2017, 04:51 AM
#36
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Originally Posted by zondaracer
SkyWest uses the term "junior manning" but it's voluntary. They call and say "would you be willing to do this junior man trip for time and a half?" Answer "sure I would love to/sorry I've got plans."
08-31-2017, 05:23 AM
#37
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Originally Posted by veewan
How often are they offering 150%? How about 200%? Do they negotiate to 300% on occasion?
They never offer 200% but sometimes you can negotiate it. I've never heard of anyone getting 300%.
08-31-2017, 05:30 AM
#38
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Originally Posted by zondaracer
If they are calling you, they always offer 150%, or if you are reserve they say "we are offering at 150% or you can remove a day of reserve later in the month."
They never offer 200% but sometimes you can negotiate it. I've never heard of anyone getting 300%.
They never offer 200% but sometimes you can negotiate it. I've never heard of anyone getting 300%.
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08-31-2017, 08:05 AM
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Originally Posted by AirBat
They're not going to mess with the pilot with a wedding. Chiefs will always drop those trips especially for YOUR wedding. Maybe not your cousin's housekeeper's aunt tho.
Some pilots have pointed out that they had nonrefundable money tied up during their planned vacation.
Arguing that other companies offering tons of open flying at 150% (and some at 200%) is worse than being forced to fly when you expected time off is illogical to me. I'd rather see more premium pay at a higher value, than be forced to work.
