Hot Cabins
07-12-2018, 08:11 AM
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Originally Posted by Beech Dude
Yes, a miserably hot airplane is no fun. Just curious...Do your guys' FOMs or SOPs give a temperature limitation for the avionics? If the cockpit gets above 95F for us; it's APU on and Cockpit pax on.
07-12-2018, 09:04 AM
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Thank you!!
I have heard from multiple crews now about captains who forbid to turn it on until 5prior to push. Personally I’m off the gate by then if at all possible.
My point is, passenger comfort is paramount! And a 90degree cabin is actually a safety issue, likely to cause a medical emergency.
If you’re warm, or the cabin is warm please turn on the APU!
And start it before fueling if it’s warm outside, that way you don’t have to wait for fueling to finish if you’re concerned.
Call the fueler back if you need it. Though I’ve never seen it be an issue.
I have heard from multiple crews now about captains who forbid to turn it on until 5prior to push. Personally I’m off the gate by then if at all possible.
My point is, passenger comfort is paramount! And a 90degree cabin is actually a safety issue, likely to cause a medical emergency.
If you’re warm, or the cabin is warm please turn on the APU!
And start it before fueling if it’s warm outside, that way you don’t have to wait for fueling to finish if you’re concerned.
Call the fueler back if you need it. Though I’ve never seen it be an issue.
07-12-2018, 09:11 AM
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Originally Posted by BobbyLeeSwagger
If my airplane is hotter than a bike outside a bar in Tijuana, then I'm starting the APU. Usually it's just the fuel panel that's open anyway when it says 'Door Fueling' or whatever 
Joking aside, this is actually typical. They’ll leave it open with no hose attached. Look outside.
I’m thinking about coming back with a new username APUturnNburn
07-12-2018, 09:38 AM
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Originally Posted by PanchoBarnes
I’m thinking about coming back with a new username APUturnNburn
My buddy came up with it
07-12-2018, 10:52 AM
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Originally Posted by PanchoBarnes
And start it before fueling if it’s warm outside, that way you don’t have to wait for fueling to finish if you’re concerned.
Call the fueler back if you need it. Though I’ve never seen it be an issue.
Call the fueler back if you need it. Though I’ve never seen it be an issue.
07-12-2018, 11:22 AM
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Originally Posted by poutine
Again, I don't really see why we have to wait for fueler finish ed doing their job, see my above post, AOM only says "MAY NOT".
if theres no more fuel coming onto the a/c and the fuel panel is still open then I'd crank it.
07-12-2018, 11:41 AM
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Originally Posted by Aviator147
idk, "MAY NOT", sounds pretty restrictive and definitive and isn't up for interpretation IMO...
if theres no more fuel coming onto the a/c and the fuel panel is still open then I'd crank it.
if theres no more fuel coming onto the a/c and the fuel panel is still open then I'd crank it.
Check below, only the word MUST means mandatory.
https://www.faa.gov/about/initiative...les/mandatory/
07-12-2018, 12:11 PM
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Originally Posted by poutine
But then why in the AOM the next sentence say 'DO NOT' during APU failed to start or it shuts off itself? Why not just make it an any scenario 'a no matter what happen thing'.
Check below, only the word MUST means mandatory.
https://www.faa.gov/about/initiative...les/mandatory/
Check below, only the word MUST means mandatory.
https://www.faa.gov/about/initiative...les/mandatory/
07-12-2018, 12:26 PM
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Originally Posted by PanchoBarnes
Thank you!!
I have heard from multiple crews now about captains who forbid to turn it on until 5prior to push. Personally I’m off the gate by then if at all possible.
My point is, passenger comfort is paramount! And a 90degree cabin is actually a safety issue, likely to cause a medical emergency.
If you’re warm, or the cabin is warm please turn on the APU!
And start it before fueling if it’s warm outside, that way you don’t have to wait for fueling to finish if you’re concerned.
Call the fueler back if you need it. Though I’ve never seen it be an issue.
I have heard from multiple crews now about captains who forbid to turn it on until 5prior to push. Personally I’m off the gate by then if at all possible.
My point is, passenger comfort is paramount! And a 90degree cabin is actually a safety issue, likely to cause a medical emergency.
If you’re warm, or the cabin is warm please turn on the APU!
And start it before fueling if it’s warm outside, that way you don’t have to wait for fueling to finish if you’re concerned.
Call the fueler back if you need it. Though I’ve never seen it be an issue.
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