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07-19-2018 | 10:24 AM

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Is that a E-175 issue that you're not allowed to start the APU while fueling or is it a company policy. On the CRJ's you can start the APU regardless of what the fueler is doing. Just curious.

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07-19-2018 | 10:32 AM

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Company I’m pretty sure anyway.

At DEN in the 200’s we had to shut them down while fueling because the exhaust was blowing right at the fuel trucks. The 700 it didn’t matter.

07-22-2018 | 06:09 PM

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Originally Posted by ErlichBlachman

Quick question for those who may have been in a similar situation. CA is running late and as soon as I sit down the plane is already on ground power and hotter than Juarez. I figure I'll start it up and get the plane cooling off... except the fueler is just getting hooked up and doing his business (large uplift for DFW with an alternate so this is going to take a little while). My understanding is that we aren't supposed to change electrical sources during fueling, but are we also precluded from deselecting the APU gen and spinning it for the packs while fueling and leaving it on the GPU until that's taken care of?

I opted not to start it and if there's nothing against doing so, that decision will haunt me for the rest of my days.

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Originally Posted by poorflyer

I don't think you're supposed to start or stop while fueling for risk of a fire. You're also not supposed to change AC power source as well I'm sure for risk of a electrical power surge. FOM has the answers though.

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Originally Posted by poutine

To my understanding, AOM 2-12.2 says: The APU "MAY NOT" be started during refueling/defueling.
'MAY NOT' still sound optional to me, and I have been doing it all the time, who knows how long it takes for those fuelers to slack off down there.

Then next sentence says: 'DO NOT' start the APU during refueling/defueling if an APU shutdown or a failed APU start occurred.
That I wont mess with! But it also proves that above is optional. Just my 2 cents.

I AM NOT ADVOCATING YOU BREAK YOUR AIRLINE'S SOPs...

But...

At republic we had similar language in our manuals. It previously was an Embraer suggested limitation to not start the APU or turn it off while fueling. Embraer revised their manuals either late last year or earlier this year, which removed that limitation (timeframe has all blurred together so I can't remember exactly when...). So we are able to start and stop the APU at any time while the fueling process is going on.

We however still have the limitation of not connecting or disconnecting ground power while actively fueling. I believe that is a grounding issue.