My bet is most of the señor captains will bypass 1 yr. We have a good record of guys getting fedex and dal obviously, and if you're a 1000+tpic LCA or next in line for that, i'de imagine one would hold out for a legacy.

But if you'll live in base at F9 and you are an FO now, might not be a bad move.. The deliveries over there look enticing.. If the upgrade times come down even more to like 2 yrs, you could do alright at F9. It's like those who went to NK in 2016-17, they got a better contract and now they are upgrading

Does one have to be in the airlines (or on APC) a certain amount of time to refer to carriers by their 2 letter ID? You know..."NK", "F9", "9E", "B6"...stuff like that.

Because I want to know how much longer before I get to be that cool.:cool:

Hahaha.. Once you're off APC probation it's encouraged

It’s for CA’s tho per that memo

It says, “If upgraded.” You can go as a FO with at least 2 years of service.

Some people are procrastinators and just can't bring themselves to get out apps and update them incessantly. This'll be good for them and for everyone junior to them. In that sense it can only be viewed as a positive.

I can only laugh at the people knocking frontier.

Second year pay there is close to $10K a month even if you’re not picking anything up. Upgrade is fairly quick hen you’re making $200K a year. You could retire there as a millionaire with a huge 401K, and more importantly, far better job security than here.

Maybe if you’re at DAL this doesn’t sound too great. But, hey, reality check, we can’t knock them now considering we are some of the lowest paid airline pilots In North America. Yeah, don’t forget that. Any LCC is better than slumming it at a regional for 1 day longer than you need to. Even if you heard F9 QOL sucks, well so does ours, badly. At least they have some money to bring home After putting up with it.

As soon as I check my 1000 PIC box I’m applying to anywhere but here. Assuming the company still exists by then

Why wait? A number of FOs with NO TPIC whatsoever have been hired at both Spirit and Frontier.


Seriously, everybody ought to be sending out apps, if only to get in the habit of doing so. And waiting on interview prep until a week before the interview probably isn't a good idea. Some airlines (SWA and Alaska come to mind) seem to give you points for perseverance. You ought to be putting in apps anywhere you meet minimums, and updating them constantly.



It's a heck of a lot easier to UPDATE apps than to fill them out originally.

I think Week means applying to LCC / not too choice carriers after hitting a thousand.
It’s a good bench mark to have under your belt if you can get it. Obviously if your #1 or any of the big 3 etc call, then go.

I agree with the choice. I’ve checked that box and would go to F9 (I think I’ve surpassed APC probabtion and can use that lol). I’m happy to see personally.

Week, you should go homie! Don't know your life situation but if you're able to move to PHL and live in base.. Do it. Like you said, you'll do alright there. Plus, with upgrade times coming way down over there with the deliveries, you can get your 1000 pic time on an airbus and maybe not want to leave by then. They would probably rather take you without the 1000 pic anyway.