Can you fly part 91?
12-06-2018, 07:05 AM
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Originally Posted by JohnBurke
Flight instruction performed under Part 91, if you are compensated, is "other commercial flying,' and must be considered in calculating your flight time limitations.
Flight instruction under Part 91 which is not compensated is not "other commercial flying."
Use caution, as the FAA has determined that the logging of flight time is considered compensation.
https://www.faa.gov/about/office_org...rpretation.pdf
Flying other than instruction, if compensated, is "other commerical flying," and likewise counts against your flight time limitations under Part 121.
Banner towing, firefighting, flying jumpers, ag flying, etc...all count toward the total flight time limitations applicable under 121 or 135.
Flight instruction under Part 91 which is not compensated is not "other commercial flying."
Use caution, as the FAA has determined that the logging of flight time is considered compensation.
https://www.faa.gov/about/office_org...rpretation.pdf
Flying other than instruction, if compensated, is "other commerical flying," and likewise counts against your flight time limitations under Part 121.
Banner towing, firefighting, flying jumpers, ag flying, etc...all count toward the total flight time limitations applicable under 121 or 135.
He's weeks, possibly months away from any Part 121 flying. I'd think the company would be glad to have him keep his proficiency and currency up on someone else's dime in the interim.
Not that I'd do it without something in writing from one of the Chief pilots, logical as that sounds.
12-06-2018, 08:41 AM
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Originally Posted by Excargodog
Which begs the question of - if the company has placed him in a holding pattern where he's not getting ANY hours, they should even care?
He's weeks, possibly months away from any Part 121 flying. I'd think the company would be glad to have him keep his proficiency and currency up on someone else's dime in the interim.
Not that I'd do it without something in writing from one of the Chief pilots, logical as that sounds.
He's weeks, possibly months away from any Part 121 flying. I'd think the company would be glad to have him keep his proficiency and currency up on someone else's dime in the interim.
Not that I'd do it without something in writing from one of the Chief pilots, logical as that sounds.
12-06-2018, 01:10 PM
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Originally Posted by Excargodog
Which begs the question of - if the company has placed him in a holding pattern where he's not getting ANY hours, they should even care?
He's weeks, possibly months away from any Part 121 flying. I'd think the company would be glad to have him keep his proficiency and currency up on someone else's dime in the interim.
Not that I'd do it without something in writing from one of the Chief pilots, logical as that sounds.
He's weeks, possibly months away from any Part 121 flying. I'd think the company would be glad to have him keep his proficiency and currency up on someone else's dime in the interim.
Not that I'd do it without something in writing from one of the Chief pilots, logical as that sounds.
Nothing happened; it was uneventful and they went away disappointed, but it left me doing a lot of thinking about the fact that it might have been a surprise to employer B when I turned up on the news doing something that was decidedly not working for that employer.
The flight time didn't impact either one insofar as pushing limits, but it was all commercial flying (Part 91 in the case of the emergency aircraft). Under the regulation, it all counted toward any flight time limits for the certificate holder.
I did get a nice certificate and padded case, and a hat out of it, which was nice. And I think I lost five pounds.
12-07-2018, 07:15 PM
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Originally Posted by JohnBurke
I've been known to do just that over the years at different times. i flew entire fire seasons concurrent to other work and neither employer knew. It wasn't a problem until I had a hydraulic loss one day and found myself in a unique situation that I hadn't planned, circling an airport, a closed runway opening for my use, and two news helicopters and a bunch of reporters standing by to capture a crash.
Nothing happened; it was uneventful and they went away disappointed, but it left me doing a lot of thinking about the fact that it might have been a surprise to employer B when I turned up on the news doing something that was decidedly not working for that employer.
The flight time didn't impact either one insofar as pushing limits, but it was all commercial flying (Part 91 in the case of the emergency aircraft). Under the regulation, it all counted toward any flight time limits for the certificate holder.
I did get a nice certificate and padded case, and a hat out of it, which was nice. And I think I lost five pounds.
Nothing happened; it was uneventful and they went away disappointed, but it left me doing a lot of thinking about the fact that it might have been a surprise to employer B when I turned up on the news doing something that was decidedly not working for that employer.
The flight time didn't impact either one insofar as pushing limits, but it was all commercial flying (Part 91 in the case of the emergency aircraft). Under the regulation, it all counted toward any flight time limits for the certificate holder.
I did get a nice certificate and padded case, and a hat out of it, which was nice. And I think I lost five pounds.
12-07-2018, 08:21 PM
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Originally Posted by Excargodog
And trash-canned the underwear along with the included five pounds of weight loss...
12-10-2018, 02:23 PM
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Originally Posted by BobbyLeeSwagger
Hey excargodog, you never said to bring chapstick for my first winter in msp.. Good grief.. My lips got more crack than a drug house in south central.. I mean it feels like someone smacked me across the face with their car keys.. I'm in pain homie
Cowboy up. You are only there for an upgrade. You'll be in and out before ice fishing season officially opens...maybe.
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12-10-2018, 04:21 PM
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Originally Posted by Excargodog
Cowboy up. You are only there for an upgrade. You'll be in and out before ice fishing season officially opens...maybe.
12-10-2018, 04:37 PM
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Originally Posted by BobbyLeeSwagger
There's an ice fishing season? unbelievable. I have to check my calendar in LA to know what season we're in before I leave for msp.. Yep definitely winter
Yep. There's an ice fishing season. Coldest beer you'll ever drink, I kid you not....
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