So his comments make him a racist? Interesting times we live in! Folks this is out of control.

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Obviously not racist, because he didn't say "the blacks, the Hispanics, the Asians."

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I interviewed at DAL more than a year ago after the ASA announcement of them withdrawing their DL flying...they certainly gave those guys preferential treatment. There was a solid 6 months where they hired a ton of legacy ASA guys after that announcement was made, so to say DL wasn’t giving those guys at ASA (an ALPA carrier) preferential treatment is far from the truth

Someone needs a safe space.

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You know Republic isn't public, right?

Ya. I said that..^ read it again

You’re kidding right? How about the Comair 900’s, the original Pinnalce 900’s (PQ) or other 200’s from ASA? Who do think picked up some of the flying after Pinnacle/Endeavor filed for BK? I’ve seen a couple 200’s last year that’s operated by SW and remember flying those airplane at Endeavor.

https://m.planespotters.net/airline/...t-Airlines?p=3

Are you saying that the Compass-Delta contract expires in September 2019? How do you know?

It's not up until a fair bit later in 2020...

This is actually when it expires.

Meaning the corporate game of chicken will continue awhile longer until one or the other yields or the crash occurs.

I don't know how it is now but back in the late 80s and early 90s United was working very hard to recruit and hire minorities to make up for past discrimination. They had quotas to fill from agreements they made with the government, EEOC I assume, although they were called "goals". In 1993 (might have been 1992) they had to pay the government 1.3 million because they did not meet their goals that year. Friends of mine with any kind of minority status with the same qualifications as me were hired 4 years before I even obtained an interview. That was just how it was.

I agree that nobody should be thinking that a preferential interview will get you much.

Does AirBat actually think he is being professional with his posts?

Yes exactly. It's just not worth the extra grey hairs worrying about it. If it happens, it happens. If it doesn't, it doesn't.

So I'm reading through this... what's the deal here? It looks like end of 2020 DAL may drop Compass, then what? Furlough a bunch of pilots because 34% of flying goes to DAL (according to the web site)? Don't want to pursue a job if there's a potential for the company to say "bye bye" after a year or 2.

Risk vs reward. Reward. Rapid movement, no reserve time, fast upgrade.. Or you get hired and yes AA gives the aircraft back to Envoy and Delta gives the planes to endeavor/Republic. And you end up at Sister company GoJet orTSA.

Take the risk!!. Plenty of lateral moves at the first sign of impending doom available...

Welcome to the real world. Every contract has an expiration date. The Compass-Delta contract happens to be up for renewal in a little over a year. Basically two possibilities:
1. It WILL be renewed.
2. It WILL NOT be renewed.

Nothing you can do about either of those possibilities. Contracts can also be cancelled out of cycle for a variety of reasons. Even wholly owned regionals (that is, owned by the major airlines whose colors they fly, like Endeavor and Delta and Piedmont and AA) can be sold by the major. (Compass was once wholly owned by Delta, less than ten years ago).

That’s simply reality. Is it LIKELY Compass will close its doors? No, but it COULD happen.

The history of regional airlines is littered with closed regionals, including wholly owned ones (like Comair) that were once THE place to be. For that matter, ever hear of PanAm? TWA? Braniff.

Bankruptcies are endemic in this business. Heck, Republic re-emerged from bankruptcy just a few years ago. Delta was bankrupt about a decade ago (and a lot of Delta pilots lost their pensions in the bankruptcy reorganization).

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List...tes#Chapter_11

If you want a career with a lot of certainty in it, well that isn’t airline pilot.

Oh, and you are misreading the graph with the 34%. That’s not the proportion of Compass flying that is Delta Connection (which is closer to TWO-thirds) that is the percentage of those pilots leaving Compass who have gone on to work for Delta.

But seriously, if you are looking for a CAREER regional, Compass is a poor fit. The average guy/gal moves on in only about three years.

*This* - If you do get hired and it fills one's current needs for progression / base / etc - then make the next best decision when something occurs out of one's control. I am still actively pursuing Compass as my times are close to ATP mins because of the small footprint (west coast bases / flying), equipment and pay is relatively equal across all regionals. Sure there are unknowns but if it only lasts 1 year, one will still have a type and time valuable. Seems hiring is slow currently at compass vs. other regionals so that could be an indication of caution from the business side as well.

Most likely Compass is getting bought by RAH. Handwriting is on the wall. Gojet started losing planes to Endeavor two weeks ago, and a buddy at RAH told me last week Bedford is cutting budgets back in May and June because the company needs $10 million for something big this summer. Also staffing up the training department as well.

Probably will all go down in June or July. Compass to RAH, Gojets and TSA get controlled by UAL either through a restructure of ownership or a buyout by ManaAir or Commutair. Gojet Delta flying all ends up at Endeavor.

Oh good. We haven’t had a good buyout rumor in months, and RAH always was a favorite. Of course they’ve got a different basing model and a different union, so even if it does happen things will probably remain status quo for a year or two while the details are worked out on the SLI, the base and seat lock, the snack basket menu, and everything else. The raise would be nice though. :D

Of course, as often as these rumored deals have fallen through in the past, I wouldn't get too excited just yet.

Let's make this more fun. Delta's share of Republic to TSH for the LGA gates. United's share goes next for, I dunno, Commutair? TSH becomes the largest stakeholder in RAH.

The movement of the Gojet planes tell you this is happening. That and the video of the Delta CEO from November is pretty strong proof that this deal has been done for a while. The only problem was TSA because Hulas has said many times he won't let Compass or Gojet go without a deal in place for TSA as well. Everybody thought this was done in August until United couldn't come up with the scope concessions to allow replacement of the 145s with 170s so Bedford balked. Deal was probably finalized when Gojet made the 550 announcement. If TSA comes back with a proposed TA in the next negotiation session in May you will know the deal is on for sure. Next few months should be interesting.

Does Hulas just talk to everyone about his game plan and how he's feeling or what

The RAH deal wasn't a rumor. It was about to happen until UA somehow put their foot down.

What I heard was UAL couldn't give scope concessions to replace the TSA 145s with 170s so it fell apart. However it is not a coincidence that Mana Air was created by UAL at the same time and is purchasing regionals. Both TSA and Gojet will probably end up owned by Mana Air or controlled by UAL. Most likely a Mana Air purchase once our contract is finished and Blowjet gets a 50 seat payrate.

AA flying going away also

FlyKat THINKS he is in the know on all sorts of things that never pan out.

That's been said since before the AA birds came to Compass property, and they haven't left yet. Not saying that they won't, but it's a bit of "the boy who cried wolf" at this point for that argument.

A blast from the past...
 

So is our Southwest flying...wait.

Since we’re all speculating here, I have some ideas. Since DG (EDV CEO and DCI SVP) made his little announcement to EDV that they had finalized their plans to consolidate to three carriers, I’ve been thinking. We all know that this next wave of consolidation happens with the demise of TSH, so:

UA (under the guise of a ManaAir like entity) buys TSH. CP is sold off to DL. CP trades the AA flying to RP for their DL flying.

This gets DL down to 3 DCI carriers, and preserves the awesomeness that is CP.

Come on, it’s not as unlikely as the CRJ550!

Anything that allows me to keep my job I'll be happy with especially if it means not breaking up CPZ. I mean CPZ by far has the best pilot group, nobody ever says bad things about how horrible so and so was to fly with. I've been hear a year and some change and I've never at the end of a trip said "I don't want to fly with that person again". It is an awesome place to work and I do not want to see it go.

Compass is a awesome place, good west coast flying. Good equipment, fast progression... There main downfall is not owning any of there aircraft... That in the end will be the downfall.. TSA holdings Sister company's own some, if not all of there’s... ( as seen with the GoJet DL owned 700’s issue going on right now, and TSA losing the AA Envoy owned 145’s...). You don’t need to look far to realize Compass future just look at the happenings at your sister company’s

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Filler

From the Air Wisconsin thread. It applies just as much to Compass, and every other regional:

LOL...what is this?

Oh yeah! That’s what makes all this speculation so much fun - everything is on the table. There is no scenario you can think of that is beyond the realm of possibility!

Republic buys Compass, but makes us all flight attendants with a DGI. Delta announces new "cabin to cockpit" program allowing DC carrier flight attendants with a pilots license a definined flow-based pathway to Delta.. Former compass pilots are forced to wait it out or quit and risk losing out on the flow to Delta