Originally Posted by word302
(Post 2777384)
I'm at Skywest. Spirit has hired with 0 PIC, though lately they have slowed hiring and gotten a little pickier. I imagine with a little PIC under your belt you will be competitive for them. Mesa pay and work rules are always at the bottom of the industry. They are the cockroach that should die but never will.
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Originally Posted by Flyboy68
(Post 2777393)
Especially with my extended layoff from aviation. They'd likely throw my app in the trash.
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Originally Posted by VIRotate
(Post 2777387)
QOL is what you want. I wouldn’t care about which aircraft I’m flying or if I upgrade in almost immediately or it takes a year or so. If you are miserable going to work and it starts effecting your marriage, time with kids, health, etc from commuting just to sit around, it’s not worth it. A word of caution. Read up on Envoys reserve life. They are pretty miserable there especially if you will be a DEC in NYC for 2 years.
DEC and QOL don't really exist in the same sentence anywhere. You'll have at least a few years of FOs upgrading over you, keeping all DECs in the bottom for a long time. The only places where this DOESN'T happen are the ones who aren't staffed well, and understaffed airline means scheduling abuse, which again means poor/no QOL. |
Originally Posted by VIRotate
(Post 2777387)
QOL is what you want. I wouldn’t care about which aircraft I’m flying or if I upgrade in almost immediately or it takes a year or so. If you are miserable going to work and it starts effecting your marriage, time with kids, health, etc from commuting just to sit around, it’s not worth it. A word of caution. Read up on Envoys reserve life. They are pretty miserable there especially if you will be a DEC in NYC for 2 years.
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Originally Posted by dera
(Post 2777396)
So, just to give an update, no DECs have gone to NYC in a long time, you can hold any base as CA after 8-9 months. Reserve sucks for commuters just as much as it sucks everywhere else (apart from CommutAir, where it sucks for everyone).
DEC and QOL don't really exist in the same sentence anywhere. You'll have at least a few years of FOs upgrading over you, keeping all DECs in the bottom for a long time. The only places where this DOESN'T happen are the ones who aren't staffed well, and understaffed airline means scheduling abuse, which again means poor/no QOL. Going to bed all, good night. Thanks for all the advice/info. |
Originally Posted by Flyboy68
(Post 2777397)
Well, it seems like any regional I upgrade at, I'm most likely not going to be able to hold IAH, DFW or ATL.
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Originally Posted by Flyboy68
(Post 2777399)
Y'all are gonna make me go fly corporate. lol
Going to bed all, good night. Thanks for all the advice/info. With 14 years left, if I were you, that's what I would do. You're at a point where legacies aren't really an option - not because you won't make it there, but because you won't reach enough seniority to have decent QOL there outside the most junior bases. Good corporate/charter gigs can be fun, give you good QOL, and pay a decent salary. Either that, or aim for Spirit/Frontier, or be a regional lifer. I know what I would do. |
Originally Posted by word302
(Post 2777406)
OO. ATL for 6 months as an FO, DTW for 6 months as CA, back to ATL for the remainder of your time. We have plenty of issues here but pay is finally decent.
18 year hiatus from flying might make him pretty much unhireable at legacies. Or at least you need one heck of a story to explain it. |
Originally Posted by Flyboy68
(Post 2777399)
Y'all are gonna make me go fly corporate. lol
Going to bed all, good night. Thanks for all the advice/info. |
Originally Posted by dera
(Post 2777409)
Not a bad path - but "remainder of your time"?
18 year hiatus from flying might make him pretty much unhireable at legacies. Or at least you need one heck of a story to explain it. |
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