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tunes 08-26-2015 03:40 PM


Originally Posted by Da40Pilot (Post 1957628)
The update from ALPA just came in "The company has not responded to our request etc..."

Pretty much the same line that was said after the $10k bonus was introduced for new hires...


I don't really blame the union....they are doing all they can with the cards they are dealt


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Da40Pilot 08-26-2015 03:41 PM


Originally Posted by tunes (Post 1957633)
I don't really blame the union....they are doing all they can with the cards they are dealt


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I agree 100%.

AluminumFoil 08-26-2015 04:27 PM


Originally Posted by Da40Pilot (Post 1957628)
The update from ALPA just came in "The company has not responded to our request etc..."

Pretty much the same line that was said after the $10k bonus was introduced for new hires...

Why don't you volunteer and help them?

Da40Pilot 08-26-2015 06:12 PM


Originally Posted by AluminumFoil (Post 1957675)
Why don't you volunteer and help them?

That's a great idea, and I would, if I didn't have to work a few other gigs on the side to survive on 1st year pay. I also think you have to live in MSP to volunteer. I may look into it in the future, as a CA.

tunes 08-26-2015 06:32 PM


Originally Posted by Da40Pilot (Post 1957746)
That's a great idea, and I would, if I didn't have to work a few other gigs on the side to survive on 1st year pay. I also think you have to live in MSP to volunteer. I may look into it in the future, as a CA.

you don't have to live in MSP

EuroMexPilot 08-27-2015 07:39 AM


Originally Posted by AluminumFoil (Post 1957675)
Why don't you volunteer and help them?

I would, if they would have returned any of my 3 emails, 2 VMs or 1 text. I gave up.
Sadly, I've heard many others say the same thing.

pylit4lyfe 08-27-2015 11:44 AM


Originally Posted by EuroMexPilot (Post 1958046)
I would, if they would have returned any of my 3 emails, 2 VMs or 1 text. I gave up.
Sadly, I've heard many others say the same thing.

Same thing happened to me

Aviator147 08-27-2015 11:51 AM

yea same, I was in contact with someone at the union, and then my email migrated and never heard anything else. I guess I'll try again

Maingear 08-27-2015 12:02 PM


Originally Posted by Aviator147 (Post 1958265)
yea same, I was in contact with someone at the union, and then my email migrated and never heard anything else. I guess I'll try again

You used your company email to do union things? Might be better off using non-company email for union things in the future.

Aviator147 08-27-2015 12:26 PM


Originally Posted by Maingear (Post 1958275)
You used your company email to do union things? Might be better off using non-company email for union things in the future.

I used it to establish contact...like I said I didnt get anywhere, but I agree, I'll probably use a personal one next time.

hungarypilot 08-27-2015 01:27 PM


Originally Posted by JetDoc (Post 1954072)
I never said that at all. What I said is that the info that is out there may or may not be relative to the new test, which is indeed new and completely different from the old one. They used to send out a study guide but I don't know if the company still does that or not with the new process. Just trying to warn the guy that's all. No sense trying to prepare for a cognitive test if it is not given anymore and if you read the gouge it is mentioned all over the place as it is the one test that most guys worried about.

Thanks for the info guys!

What's the best way to prepare for the written if they're not sending out study materials anymore?

falcon99 08-27-2015 02:12 PM


Originally Posted by hungarypilot (Post 1958333)
Thanks for the info guys!

What's the best way to prepare for the written if they're not sending out study materials anymore?

They do send out a study guide.
Written is a 50q test from some Delta(?) question bank (of 700?) Question is - where does one find that?
TIA!

crabinow16 08-27-2015 02:45 PM

Hey just a thought on trying to volunteer, with the amount of flow pilots leaving I am sure there has been some major turnover in the different committees. I would suggest trying some of the different committee members phone numbers or if you know someone who is doing union work talk to them they might know who to talk to.

Snuffaluffagus 08-27-2015 02:46 PM

Passed my upgrade LOE yesterday. Any idea what the wait is for upgrade OE after the CELL class?

woutlaw 08-27-2015 03:00 PM


Originally Posted by crabinow16 (Post 1958392)
Hey just a thought on trying to volunteer, with the amount of flow pilots leaving I am sure there has been some major turnover in the different committees. I would suggest trying some of the different committee members phone numbers or if you know someone who is doing union work talk to them they might know who to talk to.

That's all good advice. The roster on the website is in flux, for certain. Talk to a P2P volunteer or any other volunteer you happen across.

Worst case, if anyone is interested in volunteering and has had difficulty reaching someone, PM me here.

I'll make sure someone gets in contact with you.

Will

pylit4lyfe 08-27-2015 03:17 PM


Originally Posted by Snuffaluffagus (Post 1958393)
Passed my upgrade LOE yesterday. Any idea what the wait is for upgrade OE after the CELL class?

5-8 days seems average

Theswede 08-27-2015 04:56 PM

Can SAP swap requests be denied due to low reserve coverage?

Gjn290 08-27-2015 04:57 PM


Originally Posted by Theswede (Post 1958472)
Can SAP swap requests be denied due to low reserve coverage?

I was just wondering the same thing... What a joke SAP was this month.

On a side note, if I pick up a trip that ends on a day that I start another one, all 117 legal, and both are paid the four hour min day pay will I be credited with 8 hours for the day or will the system see this and consolidate the credit?

tunes 08-27-2015 06:03 PM


Originally Posted by Theswede (Post 1958472)
Can SAP swap requests be denied due to low reserve coverage?


Apparently so...I tried to drop a 4 day and pick up a 3 day over the same footprint except for 1 day different obviously and it was denied due to reserve coverage.


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Theswede 08-27-2015 06:22 PM

Just got a response from CP trip trades:

Section 25, pg. 38; G.3

g. Denial of Swap(s) or Drop(s)
The Company will not deny a Schedule Adjustment Request unless it violates the Agreement, the FARs, or the provisions listed below:

(3) A swap or drop request will be granted unless its approval would result in an inadequate level of Reserve coverage on any day that the dropped Trip operates.

GreatBigSea 08-27-2015 06:39 PM


Originally Posted by Theswede (Post 1958540)
Just got a response from CP trip trades:

Section 25, pg. 38; G.3

g. Denial of Swap(s) or Drop(s)
The Company will not deny a Schedule Adjustment Request unless it violates the Agreement, the FARs, or the provisions listed below:

(3) A swap or drop request will be granted unless its approval would result in an inadequate level of Reserve coverage on any day that the dropped Trip operates.

So due to inadequate reserve coverage, nothing can ever be swapped.

tunes 08-27-2015 06:45 PM


Originally Posted by Theswede (Post 1958540)
Just got a response from CP trip trades:

Section 25, pg. 38; G.3

g. Denial of Swap(s) or Drop(s)
The Company will not deny a Schedule Adjustment Request unless it violates the Agreement, the FARs, or the provisions listed below:

(3) A swap or drop request will be granted unless its approval would result in an inadequate level of Reserve coverage on any day that the dropped Trip operates.


Originally Posted by GreatBigSea (Post 1958552)
So due to inadequate reserve coverage, nothing can ever be swapped.

considering that there are not enough FOs in LAX to take all the lines and they rely on the guys coming of IOE to be the reserves, no trip trade will ever be allowed.

Theswede 08-27-2015 07:46 PM


Originally Posted by tunes (Post 1958556)
considering that there are not enough FOs in LAX to take all the lines and they rely on the guys coming of IOE to be the reserves, no trip trade will ever be allowed.

You'll get the swap if the shortage of reserves is greater on the days of the trip you pick up.

Da40Pilot 08-27-2015 07:49 PM

Tonight at midnight central when open time goes live, aren't you able to do swaps then?

GreatBigSea 08-27-2015 07:56 PM


Originally Posted by Da40Pilot (Post 1958608)
Tonight at midnight central when open time goes live, aren't you able to do swaps then?

Not if there isn't enough reserve coverage, evidently.

Rama04 08-27-2015 09:01 PM


Originally Posted by GreatBigSea (Post 1958610)
Not if there isn't enough reserve coverage, evidently.

There's nothing to swap into anyway.
At least on the CA time.

tunes 08-28-2015 04:29 AM


Originally Posted by Theswede (Post 1958606)
You'll get the swap if the shortage of reserves is greater on the days of the trip you pick up.


Catch 22 when you try to swap a 4 day into a 3 day over the same footprint.....


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Rama04 08-28-2015 06:06 AM


Originally Posted by tunes (Post 1958698)
Catch 22 when you try to swap a 4 day into a 3 day over the same footprint.....
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I'm not sure what you're going for by saying "catch 22" here.
Swapping a 3 day for a 4 day is a net pick up and usually would be approved because you are helping. Swapping a 4 day for a 3 day is actually a net drop. There would have to be green reserve availability for them to approve that.

Da40Pilot 08-28-2015 11:14 AM

Looks like we finally got those AA travel benefits, as of today. $75 per employee + $50 for each addtl dependent per year. Only applies to LAX based pilots.

CBreezy 08-28-2015 11:21 AM


Originally Posted by Da40Pilot (Post 1958942)
Looks like we finally got those AA travel benefits, as of today. $75 per employee + $50 for each addtl dependent per year. Only applies to LAX based pilots.

Did you read about them? They are absolutely garbage.

Rama04 08-28-2015 11:24 AM


Originally Posted by CBreezy (Post 1958946)
Did you read about them? They are absolutely garbage.

Any specifics on why it's garbage? I've only read the memo so far.

Da40Pilot 08-28-2015 11:26 AM


Originally Posted by CBreezy (Post 1958946)
Did you read about them? They are absolutely garbage.

The email only talked about how to obtain them, not any specifics about them, besides that the process is not as automated as Delta net. . Am I missing something?

CBreezy 08-28-2015 11:33 AM


Originally Posted by Da40Pilot (Post 1958952)
The email only talked about how to obtain them, not any specifics about them, besides that the process is not as automated as Delta net. . Am I missing something?

The info we got at TSA was you had to list at least 3 business days prior on myIDtravel and pay a segment fee of "$5-$50." That website doesn't show loads only smiley faces and 3 BUSINESS days (up to 5 real days) is way too much lead time to get an accurate idea of loads using a vague emoticon indicator.

Da40Pilot 08-28-2015 11:42 AM


Originally Posted by CBreezy (Post 1958955)
The info we got at TSA was you had to list at least 3 business days prior on myIDtravel and pay a segment fee of "$5-$50." That website doesn't show loads only smiley faces and 3 BUSINESS days (up to 5 real days) is way too much lead time to get an accurate idea of loads using a vague emoticon indicator.

Yeah, the process seems a bit more drawn out, but I think the $5-$50 is what your parents pay as part of the yield fare, which is just like Delta. You and your spouse/kids don't pay any segment fees. I think it's a good addon for international flying.

Gjn290 08-28-2015 12:11 PM

It would be nice if they mentioned boarding priority on AE flights operated by Compass. I'm sure it's just above buddy passes. No thanks.

RomeoSierra 08-28-2015 12:49 PM

AA passes aren't the best. Will go below all AA and Eagle people. Including retirees and buddy passes. And since we are not wholly owned we can't go on the employee website or SABRE to see loads. The New AA screws another work group.

Maingear 08-28-2015 01:00 PM

So is there any point in even setting them up? Can we add a travel companion now? It isn't very clear. I'd like to add my gf.

Da40Pilot 08-28-2015 01:48 PM


Originally Posted by Maingear (Post 1959009)
So is there any point in even setting them up? Can we add a travel companion now? It isn't very clear. I'd like to add my gf.

You can yes, $75 for you, $50 for her, but they're pro-rating it till the end of '15 so it ends up being $30-$40 for both.

FlyingGorilla 08-28-2015 03:46 PM

You guys know there's a Compass ALPA board to have discussions on, right?

There aren't any internet bullies and you'll actually get accurate information from the people that know the truth. (ALPA volunteers usually aren't very active on APC...or at least they shouldn't be) Plus, you won't get Chief Pilots trolling because they're not supposed to be allowed on the board.

Also, for those of you that want to volunteer, it could open a line of communication.

EuroMexPilot 08-28-2015 07:27 PM


Originally Posted by Rama04 (Post 1958949)
Any specifics on why it's garbage? I've only read the memo so far.

Most specifically, you have to make a listing in MYIDTRAVEL, get a confirmation email, then forward that email to someone at TSH and they will take a minimum of 3 days to approve it!
Oh... And don't forget to include all your credit card information in that email so they can bill you for any possible fees.
Why don't I just hand them the keys to the candy store while I'm at it.
AA flight benefits = unusable


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