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Originally Posted by conquestdz (Post 1804532)

How much protection do we need from a 16 hour 4 day? They just cant build very many because we all have to average more than that to be forced up to 90 hours and beyond during our 19 days of work each month. (90/19=4.73) For every min credit trip they build, the have to add more credit to some other trip to make up for it. If you really think they are going to build a bunch, just look at the bid packs from the months right before we got stuck with this 4:45 ADTG. At that time we had 4 hours of pay per day minimum, but not credit. It would seem that the math for them would be similar if we go with 4&4. There were certainly a few 16 hour four day trips, but not a ton.

I see the merits of both, but I just feel long term this will provide the most protection for everyone on the list.

The company will optimize trips to fit whichever option we choose. So what is going on today isn't necessarily what we will get.

I just see the ADTG being a long term hedge against any loss of productivity we may see in the future.

I know we are short staffed now, but that won't always be the case. If we are so short staffed you won't many see 30 hour layovers. They will DH you out (at 80% pay) to go fly some more, instead of letting you rot.

Honestly, either way I'm fine.

Anybody know how efficient the coming 1/3 of all pairings will be with AA?

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Originally Posted by saturn (Post 1804557)

Anybody know how efficient the coming 1/3 of all pairings will be with AA?

We haven't even been told where we're flying yet. :rolleyes:

Do we have to do the CBTs before we pick up the EFBs? I'm having a hard time with the LIDO chart CBT without having the charts to look at and go through. If we have to have it completed before picking it up, can you fail the CBT and have to get someone to reset it?

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Originally Posted by Maingear (Post 1804918)

No, just have to do it before you use it on the line.

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Originally Posted by BlueMoon (Post 1804974)

No, just have to do it before you use it on the line.

Perfect. Thanks. The presentation was going in one ear and out the other without having the charts in front of me. I couldn't find an e-link for them like the Jepp charts either.

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Originally Posted by Maingear (Post 1804918)

since it's within the cbt it lets you take it until you pass it.

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Originally Posted by coryk (Post 1804771)

We haven't even been told where we're flying yet. :rolleyes:

Saw an article saying IAH and DEN were initial destinations, with other routes currently flown by Mesa to follow as they shift flying out of LAX and in to DFW.

Of course, we've all seen the route map the company sent out, but AA schedules still have Mesa listed for them as of today.

Looks like starting in June we will lose 3 LAX-PDX plus i think 4 LAX-LAS and 1 SLC-MCI to the 717. wonder where they are going to redistribute us to.

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Originally Posted by crabinow16 (Post 1805305)

Looks like starting in June we will lose 3 LAX-PDX plus i think 4 LAX-LAS and 1 SLC-MCI to the 717. wonder where they are going to redistribute us to.

Great news!!! :D Hopefully the trend of replacing our flights with mainline DL metal continues! I'm sure we'll be redeployed to other new / test markets out of LAX & SEA as mainline is placed on high demand routes.

Right now, a large portion of DL flights on the west coast are being done by RJs (us and SKYW). Hopefully the long-run picture is a strong DL presence out of LAX & SEA with RJs doing feed from small markets and mainline running the large markets.