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Cause this is Filllerrrrr!

Has anyone heard anything about new hire class dates beyond August 7th? Still curious to hear something about the plan for those of us in the pool....

Heard Leach and the boys were not happy with their last visit to Japan. Don't be surprised if the MRJ options are sold or cancelled, and the delivery of these 175s are moved up. I suspect you are seeing the backup plan if the MRJ continues to have problems.

In the same boat...hopefully hear something soon

But what the hell is/was the plan for the MRJs? I still don't understand why FFD carriers are buying their own airplanes.

My guess is that they're setting up to fly FFD for ME carriers, but that's just a WAG.

Its going to be hard to move those orders up:

The E175-E2 model in the 80-seat range is the smallest in the E-Jet Second Generation family. The E175-E2 was extended by one seat row, compared to the current generation E-175, will seat up to 88 passengers, and is scheduled for first delivery in 2020.

Just curious if any folks that are LAX based are currently living in the Southern California area, and if so, what are your drive times like to work? Trying to figure out if the drive from SD is doable. I know I won't be able to stand reserve from home, but just curious how bad the drive is towards LA.

I live in Hollywood 2 blocks north of the walk of fame, it's a 25 minute drive in no traffic to the airport and 45 minutes in traffic. SD might be pushing it, anyone else wanna chime in?

EDIT: From what I've heard, the drive times in/out of traffic are similar for the Redondo Beach area.

I live in LGB. It's about 25 min without traffic from house to lot. Then another 10-15 from lot to gate. If there's heavy traffic plan to leave about 1hr 30min early. Usually I leave about an hour prior to show 9/10.

People in OC leave 1.5-2hrs prior to show.

That drive from South Dakota can be a b*$&#.

Is LGB livable on first year pay?

Yeah if your parents live there and you can stay with them. South central LA might be more suitable for 1st year regional pay. Or throwing up a tent under the 405

Guess what! Good news here, my friends!
Appeals court panel ends L.A. ban on homeless living in vehicles - LA Times

Yes, we can ALL afford to live in L.A., now.... I call top bunk!

Good news for all of those on first-year pay who already sleep in campers in the employee parking lot!

One bd apartment will run you 1200-1600/mo. A 2bd will run 1600-2200/mo. I have roommates so it works out.

Ha! Do they still have the RV lot at LAX?

Word on the street is that efbs will be starting trials in the next few months with LIDO charts and iPad Air.

would be awesome if they could announce the sept class dates

Is CPZ using ship Jepps now or individual flight kits?

Flight kits.

Well classes usually start on Thursdays...and they have said they want to do weekly classes...so it doesn't take Sherlock Holmes to put the rest of it together...

until they actually give class dates to those in the pool, it means nothing.

Trust me. From someone who floated in the pool for far longer than you could imagine, I know that. But at least this way if you know what number you are in the pool, you can make an educated guess.

Just posted a Sept class date for 8 new hires. Not sure which date in Sept but the vacancy is out. I'd imagine those in the pool will find out today more info. Also, while I was also in the pool for an entire YEAR, I get how frustrating it can be waiting for a call for a class date. Once the calls started going out I was able to email the recruiting team and ask about how long I could anticipate sitting in the pool. They were quick to get back to me so I could start planning. Maybe you could do that to get an idea of what the plan is. With that said, they're still finalizing the long term plan so you may not get a ton of info this instant. But it's worth a try.

I sent an email yesterday... Response was
They have not given us the official start dates yet for the classes for September and going forward.

So based on what you are saying the whole 10 a week in September isn't happening?

The vacancy that was posted today was for pilots hitting the line in october. The new hires that are included in that vacancy are already on property since it takes about 3 months from the start of home study till you can be considered eligible to bid for that month.

The september class date in the vacancy was for an UPGRADE class, not new hires.

The vacancies for increased new hires will follow, probably later on in august or early september, right around when you will start anyway.

I realize its hard to wait, and there are many of us who had to wait over a year like alaskabound said. The plan is being finalized, and believe me, if its anything like last year (and it will be) once they know, the floodgates will open and the pool will empty practically overnight.

10/week is going to happen, I would expect to hear something in the next 2-3 weeks once they finalize the training plan and sim schedule for the next 12-16 months.

Yeah I'm just trying to figure out when my class will be so I can turn down other offers.....thanks for the in depth post...makes more sense now

Be careful about what information you put out there. Although the vacancy indicates 8 new hire positions, they're most definitely for people already on property and people that will be done with IOE by September.

There is also nothing in the alignment about a new hire class date. In fact new hire class dates aren't sent to the entire pilot group in any mass communication format. The training center may or may not give you an update when you're in the school house for recurrent, but to say that realignment or vacancy bids have any new hire class dates is flat out wrong. In fact even trying to predict class dates based on position bids is flat out wrong because nobody bids until they've actually been hired, so please try and keep the information accurate.

It's frustrating enough to be treading water. Getting wrong information just makes it worse, but fortunately things are moving and good things will come to those that wait.

whoa there buddy. I got your point the first time you said it. I stand corrected and spoke too soon. If I ruined anyone's day (the 10 people who read this thread on a regular basis) I apologize.

How does transportation to training work. Remember reading something about having to find your own way to MN. But can't find it.

For first day orientation, you buy a ticket. But don't buy a return ticket because you'll have delta travel privs by the end of that day and probably your ID badge too, so you can jumpseat home and list standby to all future training events. You are also responsible for your hotel and getting to/from the schoolhouse during the remainder of training.

I thought you had to buy your way to and from orientation and you didn't get travel benefits until you showed for class after the 30 day home study?

Nope, travel benefits day 1, and as long as you aren't listed in CASS with another airline, jumpseat privilidges too.

Okay..so then its seniority that doesnt start til indoc after home study?

No

Fillerrrrr

Your seniority starts on day 1 Indoc before you go for the 30-day CBT.


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iPad Air and LIDO charts eh? Well can't win them all I suppose...

Perfect! Just the training contract doesn't start ticking til Sim complete I'm guessing?

If im not mistaken the training contract starts on your hire date.

I suppose these are all questions I should have asked at my interview...so I appreciate all the responses