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I enjoy typos that change the meaning of the words from that which was intended. I guess it comes from working my way thru college (making beer money) as a proofreader. Couldn't make much as a writer due to my own spelling and grammer issues. lol

and you enjoy carrying that chip around on your shoulder, hope it doesn't weigh you down too much!

:rolleyes:Holy smokes, seems a lot of ppl on this form need to lighten up a little...maybe myself included...lol...

But I certainly don't have any chips on my sholder...Sorry if it came across that way. If someone chooses to make a smart-ass remark to a post, isn't that grounds to perhaps receive one in reply? Suck it up, it's all in good fun...God knows we all need a little bit of a laugh around here once and a while.:D

Hope there's no hard feelings, because there certainly isn't any here!
Much love and as light as a feather.
ATR:cool:
PS. Goes for you too Yzerman...Peace.

Don't tell DL that they inherited a few pilots from the NW side who do not have a degree...

It is time for all pilot groups to recognize we all NEED to support the requirement of a four year degree or we will not see a return to anywhere close to the quality of life and compensation levels of days gone by. Lawyers, physicians, CPA's, etc. all not only require certifications, but advanced education.

Those without a degree should be grandfathered, but the sooner this takes affect the sooner wages will rise.

If you where on trial for life, would you want someone who had not been to an accredited law school -- even if he or she could pass the bar? If you had cancer, would want someone operating on you who had not been to medical school even if he could pass the boards? They may be truly just as good, but the perception is they are better (and worth more). Would you want someone preparing your company's books who had paid a bunch of money and trained intensively for 10 months at an accounting school, but could pass the CPA test?

As long as someone can become a 121 pilot in less than a year, the pay respect, and quality of life will resemble the graduates of cosmetology school.

I agree with everything you say but until management stop looking at us as Blue Collar workers and start looking at us as White collar workers I dont think anything will be done..

I can certainly agree, but this point is only valid if the education gained is directly related to our profession as aviators.

ATR:cool:

I don't think anybody has even mentioned the fact that while Compass raised their educational requirements, they lowered their multi-engine time requirements. Now, what sense does that make?

Yes it would. I do, however, believe the goal should be to reduce the pool with discriminators that actually increase the quality of the applicants making it through to the interview.

Answer: Absolutly ZERO sense.

I think "rdneckpilot" is on to something...

Just because an applicant has a four year degree in whatever, certainly dosen't make that individual a better suited candidate as a pilot. A degree isn't all that difficualt to obtain...just requires a little time (and that's time not spent in a cockpit).

Now if that four years has been spent in real world flight operations, or studying metorology, aerodynamics, or some other aviation related field of study...well that's a little bit of a diffrent story.

Just my two cents.
ATR :cool:

I'm sorry, I know I've said this before but I can't think of any reason to justify spending money on an extra four years of college that you don't need. I knew I wanted to be a pilot, so I went to flight school. That was my training. I have a piece of plastic in my wallet that says I successfully completed the training. That means I stuck with and finished something I started. The one thing we don't need in this industry is a requirement that we spend MORE money for the return we're seeing. I'm not so sure that such a requirement would result in higher pay, either. Reading a little history about aviation will show you that airline management has been trying to lowball pilots on pay since the beginning. A unified pilot group is what we need, not more hoops to jump through.