Compass vs. Skywest: W/ZERO 121
 

Compass is nearing street captain. Skywest is heading to the poll with the highest 1st year pay(I think). However Compass short upgrade is for someone with at least 1000 121 time. So if one had 1000 121 hr, this would be no brainier. What about those with zeroe 121 hour? Where do you see these two companies in few years? If you had ZERO 121 time now, which would you seek?

Making your decision based on what people Say here is a bad idea, IMO.

Make a list of the pros and cons for each. Where do you want to live? Company track record? Company outlook? Upgrade time? Flow thrus? Etc.

Don't chase the upgrade. Today's quick upgrade has a funny way of becoming tomorrow's dog ****. Don't listen to the negativity on here. Or you'll be miserable your whole career.

And for the record I chose Skywest over compass. Do I wish sometimes I hadn't? Yeah. But since neither are my career gigs I am not looking back!
(I also had pic time)

Bottom line: make the decision for yourself and not because of the opinion of others (especially here). Or you will never feel good about it!

SkyWest is a good company to work for, as is Compass. Pick the one that allows you to drive to work & not commute. Good luck!

1. pick the one that allows you to not commute
2. both are good places to be
3. you will most likely have a higher relative FO seniority at Compass
4. Skywest pay is slightly higher

The one that will get you to a major the quickest......

May main concern with Commpas is there owned by TSA now. What does that mean for the future 5-10 years out..??..

Whoa whoa whoa!!! Wait a minute. You do realize that you deserve RESPECT? ExpressJet is offering that according to their adverts on this site. Man, I'd think long and hard about this. You're choosing between almost certain career advancement and valuable respect which XJT apparently has a monopoly on. Hmmm.. Choose carefully man.


jk, good for you! SkyWest has very attractive base options but CPZ seems to have faster movement. Depends on where you live I guess.

As a west coast guy myself, Skywest and Compass were two very viable options. I chose Compass because going with Skywest would have meant that I would have been based out of ORD for the first few months, meaning I would have had to commute to Chicago, do the crashpad ordeal and then spend a ton of time waiting to get the LAX base, and God knows how much longer I'd have to continue to be on reserve, since LAX seems to be a more senior base. The thought of losing a day commuting in and another day getting back home was a big no no.

That was most likely the #1 reason I chose Compass over Skywest. Being able to drive to work from Day 1 (LAX) and sitting reserve for just a few weeks living 30 minutes away was important.

Furthermore, Skywest has a ton of 50 seaters that have an uncertain future.

I also like that Compass is a much smaller airline in terms of pilots, Skywest has thousands and a ton of lifers - therefore, you accrue relative seniority at Compass much much quicker, meaning your ability to bid for the schedule you want comes much much faster at Compass.

Compass just got 20 new airframes for AA flying and they appear to be growing more and more by the day, so this is a perfect moment to get on with CPZ because of the growth.

Flying the ERJ vs CRJ is a big plus although not a huge deciding factor. I rather do the longer legs every day, than the 30-45 minutes trips 6 times a day on a CRJ200 with a lav all the way in the back.

Skywest is not part of any union, and a lot of people don't like that.

Either way, like most people say, choose the one which will keep you at home without having to commute. Get in, get out and get on with a major asap.

SkyWest Denver E-175 base just announced.

I can show you a graph that shows SW pilots are the highest paid in the industry. Will that help you choose SW? What about if I promise you a percentage of profit each year, but that profit will be determined after our accountants massage the numbers and our executives take their million dollar bonuses??

Wait, you mean there is more to choosing a job vs just telling people we are the highest paid? You want things like QOL and not being worked into the ground month after month? Weird. Maybe if we are smart enough to vote our pay proposal down, we can consider some of those things to attract new hires in our next "negotiations"

And just so I don't get slammed later, the first sentence was sarcasm. I know there is more to a job than just the hourly wage and I personally believe this is where SW pilots get taken advantage of year after year. Especially when I see someone on the Horizon thread say they made 55K in their 3rd year. I have never made that much at SW and I have been here a lot longer than 3 years.

I was between Skywest and Compass. The main reason why I chose Skywest is because of base choice that will allow me to not move and live in base. If I lived in LA, I may have preferred Compass.

Well, I can say it is possible because I've done it at OO avg 95hrs credit plus per diem. It's doable

If you value QOL I'd go Compass, I just DROPPED a 5 day trip that gives me 18 days off in May. I think that would be pretty much impossible at SkyWest right now. Getting a TBNT letter from SkyWest was the best thing that ever happened to me in this industry.

I didn't have to drop anything and still got 15 days off next month with a week straight off and 3/4 weekends off crediting a little over 90.

Yeah well I got 16 days off, 4 weekends, and 91 hours. WHAT NOW?

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Eh, I had 25 days off and blocked 2.5hrs flight time no weekends worked, salaried 91 position. WHAT NOW?!

Flowed to Delta.... What now?

In all honesty go to the one that hires you first that's makes your QOL the best

Yeah, I agree. Can be looooong but if I can drop one and have 18 days off in a month I'll make the sacrifice.

Meet me for a kale smoothie next month?

bump

Compass wins in a landslide.

Anything changed that would alter the outcome since this poll was originated?

Nope

10char

well it depends if you want the status of being at mainline skywest or some regional.

Ha ha. It's no better. Actually worse than some regionals when it comes to upgrades, QOL, pay etc etc.

Are you at Compass yet?

yeah 1-1.5 year upgrades...what a travesty

Yeah. What a world we live in where a less than 2 year upgrade is NOT considered a quick upgrade.

I don't work there anymore. Upgrade time was under 3 months...now it's back to a year or so. Losing 15-20 a month due to attrition, upgrade will stay under 2 years for quite some time.

Most recent vacancy had an April 2015 hire. Tell me again, what do you know?

Skywest blowhard alert!!!!

#cadetforlife
#cadetsrule

That is simply not factually accurate. There aren't that many people that have been bypassed and there are some big upgrade classes coming that will catch most of them. Considering the pilot group and doing the math... we have already lost over 15 people this month. 600 active pilots... a guy hired today if attrition stays the same will upgrade in 20 months. Attrition is going to continue to be higher than industry average, because there are no lifers clogging the list, we are a young pilot group of gogetters that are getting our time and moving out and getting out. Additionally we have a management staff that is going to go out there and get us more flying.. and when as you say 95% of the pilot group is hired in the "last 18 months", we are CHEAP. We have a not-great contract and a very cheap employer. You KNOW we're probably going to go win more flying, that is just how this business works. Is it a sure thing? heck no. If attrition went to 6 a month... things would take much longer but they'd still be pretty reasonable.. but right now, would I bet money on 18 months? ... heck no the global economy is collapsing.. but is it possible, even probable? yes it is. this is still a great place to come be IF you want quick movement and growth. nobody can really guarantee an upgrade time but it's almost always going to be faster here than elsewhere for above stated reasons. is it all sunshine and lollypops and rainbows here? god no, TSH is... TSH. but it's bearable and tolerable and even if the upgrade time is a little bit longer than forecast it's going to be quick based on the best available information *today*.

I thought a lot of SkyWesters drink the kool aid but this takes the cake.

Oh no, mainline Skywest coming to take all our planes and jerbs