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View Poll Results: With ZERO 121/jet time?
SkyWest 69 34.67%
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Old 04-28-2015, 10:18 PM   #1  
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Default Compass vs. Skywest: W/ZERO 121

Compass is nearing street captain. Skywest is heading to the poll with the highest 1st year pay(I think). However Compass short upgrade is for someone with at least 1000 121 time. So if one had 1000 121 hr, this would be no brainier. What about those with zeroe 121 hour? Where do you see these two companies in few years? If you had ZERO 121 time now, which would you seek?
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Old 04-28-2015, 11:19 PM   #2  
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Making your decision based on what people Say here is a bad idea, IMO.

Make a list of the pros and cons for each. Where do you want to live? Company track record? Company outlook? Upgrade time? Flow thrus? Etc.

Don't chase the upgrade. Today's quick upgrade has a funny way of becoming tomorrow's dog ****. Don't listen to the negativity on here. Or you'll be miserable your whole career.

And for the record I chose Skywest over compass. Do I wish sometimes I hadn't? Yeah. But since neither are my career gigs I am not looking back!
(I also had pic time)

Bottom line: make the decision for yourself and not because of the opinion of others (especially here). Or you will never feel good about it!
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Old 04-29-2015, 02:22 AM   #3  
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SkyWest is a good company to work for, as is Compass. Pick the one that allows you to drive to work & not commute. Good luck!
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Old 04-29-2015, 04:27 AM   #4  
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1. pick the one that allows you to not commute
2. both are good places to be
3. you will most likely have a higher relative FO seniority at Compass
4. Skywest pay is slightly higher
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Old 04-29-2015, 05:43 AM   #5  
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The one that will get you to a major the quickest......
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Old 04-29-2015, 06:17 AM   #6  
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May main concern with Commpas is there owned by TSA now. What does that mean for the future 5-10 years out..??..
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Old 04-29-2015, 06:22 AM   #7  
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Whoa whoa whoa!!! Wait a minute. You do realize that you deserve RESPECT? ExpressJet is offering that according to their adverts on this site. Man, I'd think long and hard about this. You're choosing between almost certain career advancement and valuable respect which XJT apparently has a monopoly on. Hmmm.. Choose carefully man.

jk, good for you! SkyWest has very attractive base options but CPZ seems to have faster movement. Depends on where you live I guess.
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Old 04-29-2015, 06:39 AM   #8  
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As a west coast guy myself, Skywest and Compass were two very viable options. I chose Compass because going with Skywest would have meant that I would have been based out of ORD for the first few months, meaning I would have had to commute to Chicago, do the crashpad ordeal and then spend a ton of time waiting to get the LAX base, and God knows how much longer I'd have to continue to be on reserve, since LAX seems to be a more senior base. The thought of losing a day commuting in and another day getting back home was a big no no.

That was most likely the #1 reason I chose Compass over Skywest. Being able to drive to work from Day 1 (LAX) and sitting reserve for just a few weeks living 30 minutes away was important.

Furthermore, Skywest has a ton of 50 seaters that have an uncertain future.

I also like that Compass is a much smaller airline in terms of pilots, Skywest has thousands and a ton of lifers - therefore, you accrue relative seniority at Compass much much quicker, meaning your ability to bid for the schedule you want comes much much faster at Compass.

Compass just got 20 new airframes for AA flying and they appear to be growing more and more by the day, so this is a perfect moment to get on with CPZ because of the growth.

Flying the ERJ vs CRJ is a big plus although not a huge deciding factor. I rather do the longer legs every day, than the 30-45 minutes trips 6 times a day on a CRJ200 with a lav all the way in the back.

Skywest is not part of any union, and a lot of people don't like that.

Either way, like most people say, choose the one which will keep you at home without having to commute. Get in, get out and get on with a major asap.
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Old 04-29-2015, 12:48 PM   #9  
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SkyWest Denver E-175 base just announced.
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Old 04-29-2015, 01:18 PM   #10  
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I can show you a graph that shows SW pilots are the highest paid in the industry. Will that help you choose SW? What about if I promise you a percentage of profit each year, but that profit will be determined after our accountants massage the numbers and our executives take their million dollar bonuses??

Wait, you mean there is more to choosing a job vs just telling people we are the highest paid? You want things like QOL and not being worked into the ground month after month? Weird. Maybe if we are smart enough to vote our pay proposal down, we can consider some of those things to attract new hires in our next "negotiations"

And just so I don't get slammed later, the first sentence was sarcasm. I know there is more to a job than just the hourly wage and I personally believe this is where SW pilots get taken advantage of year after year. Especially when I see someone on the Horizon thread say they made 55K in their 3rd year. I have never made that much at SW and I have been here a lot longer than 3 years.
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