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GrassLandings 05-03-2017 06:21 PM


Originally Posted by fina (Post 2356780)
Did you forget that those 20 E175 were part of 60 that were coming originally to envoy. Also your company took those 20 airplanes from us. You misunderstood what I was trying to say, I don't want anyone to lose their jobs. I'm just trying to say that the new guys looking for regional airline jobs should do their research.

We did not TAKE anyones aircraft, thats complete lies. Do not confuse AAG labor tactics with Compass. Nearly ever other regional bid on that flying AFTER you voted it down, Compass won the bid. Plain and simple. Sounds to me like you guys lost them before you even got them.

I know what you were TRYING to say. But once again, you have your facts wrong.

GrassLandings 05-03-2017 06:23 PM


Originally Posted by Av8rPHX (Post 2356786)
Not being a fanboy here,but we are putting up some pretty respectable numbers on the AA side,I doubt AA is in a huge rush to get rid of us,plus I thought our contract went until 2021..


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Yes we certainly are. Even with the complete mess LAX is right now with a runway down and SFO with one down as well. GDPs havent stopped for a week, haha.

As I recall from many posts ago someone had pretty solid info it was until 2020 (end of 2019?) then 2 extensions at 2 years each with performance metrics met. So could even be longer than 2020, 2024ish

Rogdixon 05-03-2017 07:15 PM


Originally Posted by fina (Post 2356780)
Did you forget that those 20 E175 were part of 60 that were coming originally to envoy. Also your company took those 20 airplanes from us. You misunderstood what I was trying to say, I don't want anyone to lose their jobs. I'm just trying to say that the new guys looking for regional airline jobs should do their research.

Your beef should be with PSA, not Compass.

Weekendsoff 05-03-2017 07:28 PM


Originally Posted by fina (Post 2356780)
Did you forget that those 20 E175 were part of 60 that were coming originally to envoy. Also your company took those 20 airplanes from us. You misunderstood what I was trying to say, I don't want anyone to lose their jobs. I'm just trying to say that the new guys looking for regional airline jobs should do their research.

If you're at a regional right now and you're not at a major by the end of the AA Compass contract, you're doing something very wrong. This is assuming there are no major setbacks in the industry but the retirement and hiring numbers are rediculous right now. So focus on getting out and not creating rumors unless you have solid evidence. Just my .02cents which is worth about 1 yen.

Aviator147 05-03-2017 07:55 PM

Where is this guy getting info that the AA contact is done in 2019? That would be a 4 year contract, and we all know it wasn't a 4 year contract......

veewan 05-03-2017 09:19 PM


Originally Posted by Aviator147 (Post 2356873)
Where is this guy getting info that the AA contact is done in 2019? That would be a 4 year contract, and we all know it wasn't a 4 year contract......

Pulling it out of his lower half. There's a hole down there where some rank waste comes out.

I think where these Envoy guys are getting this rumor from is by reading between the lines and thinking too much into it.

It's known that Envoy will become the Embraer WO for AA. They have plans to transfer the CRJs from Envoy to PSA. You can ask people over there, that's a fact. So what I'm betting their pilots think is that since Envoy will become all Embraer that they will get the 20 E175s we are currently flying. Apparently the ones coming up with the rumor don't realize that the legacies like to be able to whipsaw.

Anything is possible, so they may try to do that, but as others have said, our performance on the AA side of the operation is actually pretty good. I'd be more worried that we'll lose Delta birds before we lose AA ones. But as others have stated if you're still at Compass in 2020 with hiring like it is now, you've got a lot more to be worried about.

Poser765 05-03-2017 09:34 PM


Originally Posted by fina (Post 2356780)
Did you forget that those 20 E175 were part of 60 that were coming originally to envoy. Also your company took those 20 airplanes from us. You misunderstood what I was trying to say, I don't want anyone to lose their jobs. I'm just trying to say that the new guys looking for regional airline jobs should do their research.

Good god, dude, you are making Envoy look bad. lol, took they flying from you? Get out of here with that crap. It's not your flying, it's not our flying, and we certainly didn't take it.

It's AA's flying.

They decided it was better for them for us to work it.

Those re the facts.

This is just like in 2013 when RAH got the AA flying. BOO RAH stole our flying! Let go of the grudge guys...it helps with your ulcer.

TillerThriller 05-03-2017 10:09 PM

A buddy of mine there told me Envoy is getting four more 175s this year That just got annouced which is good news for them. They have had some other good news as well yet apparently some are not happy enough with that and have to start bickering wars for something a few years away. Bravo sir!

Poser765 05-03-2017 10:25 PM


Originally Posted by TillerThriller (Post 2356928)
A buddy of mine there told me Envoy is getting four more 175s this year That just got annouced which is good news for them. They have had some other good news as well yet apparently some are not happy enough with that and have to start bickering wars for something a few years away. Bravo sir!

Yeah, I'm happy for them. I'm always happy when things are going good for a carrier...and they've had a rough few years.

With that said, a week or so ago someone posted a rumor that our planes where getting sent back to Envoy and that they would reopen LAX. That would damage us...badly. The excitement and enthusiasm in that thread was sad.

fina 05-04-2017 05:06 AM


Originally Posted by veewan (Post 2356917)
Pulling it out of his lower half. There's a hole down there where some rank waste comes out.

I think where these Envoy guys are getting this rumor from is by reading between the lines and thinking too much into it.

It's known that Envoy will become the Embraer WO for AA. They have plans to transfer the CRJs from Envoy to PSA. You can ask people over there, that's a fact. So what I'm betting their pilots think is that since Envoy will become all Embraer that they will get the 20 E175s we are currently flying. Apparently the ones coming up with the rumor don't realize that the legacies like to be able to whipsaw.

Anything is possible, so they may try to do that, but as others have said, our performance on the AA side of the operation is actually pretty good. I'd be more worried that we'll lose Delta birds before we lose AA ones. But as others have stated if you're still at Compass in 2020 with hiring like it is now, you've got a lot more to be worried about.

Why are you guys getting so defensive about this .About two years ago Parker said in a town hall meeting that he preferred to have flying back to envoy if we give him the contract that he wanted.Guess what we gave him the contract he wanted .Your performance is good and that's one of the reasons AA is going to keep the flying at a compass.Have you seen how bad Mesa performance is and they are still flying for AA? AA only cares how cheap you do the flying. What I hear from good sources is that AA doesn't want Lax base for us but that they want to bring those 20 E175 back to the house, I don't want anybody losing their jobs so don't take it that way.Now let's see what happens around 2019/2020. I apologize for the misunderstanding and if I offended anyone


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