How to ask to upgrade
04-28-2017 | 05:08 PM
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How to ask to upgrade
I currently hold a PIC type but I am hired as an SIC in a Lear 45/75. I finally meet the requirements (insurance) for PIC. Should I try to convince my boss (owner) to make me a co-captain? The guy I fly with told me I should, I just don't know how to approach my boss with the idea. Also, the raise would be nice.
04-28-2017 | 11:33 PM
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You ask for a meeting, go in and be prepared to state your case. Explain your qualifications:
-hours
-responsibility
-ability to work well with others
-demonstrating good leadership
-successes In teamwork, working well with others.
-work history (never late, takes additional flights willingly)
Good luck! You deserve it.
There's nothing wrong with asking.
-hours
-responsibility
-ability to work well with others
-demonstrating good leadership
-successes In teamwork, working well with others.
-work history (never late, takes additional flights willingly)
Good luck! You deserve it.
There's nothing wrong with asking.
04-29-2017 | 05:51 AM
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I currently hold a PIC type but I am hired as an SIC in a Lear 45/75. I finally meet the requirements (insurance) for PIC. Should I try to convince my boss (owner) to make me a co-captain? The guy I fly with told me I should, I just don't know how to approach my boss with the idea. Also, the raise would be nice.
04-29-2017 | 07:22 AM
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I used to work for somebody who had a couple of degrees in Business.
So I go in asking for a raise.
He's like I was wondering when you'd come in.
I countered with 'well you could have offered'.
He's like 'why should I pay you more for doing the same job?'
Me: ' because I'm really good at what I do'
Him: ' so why should I pay you more for doing the job I hired you to do?'
Be prepared for a conversation like this.
Practice with a buddy as this sort of thing can really throw you off your game.
So I go in asking for a raise.
He's like I was wondering when you'd come in.
I countered with 'well you could have offered'.
He's like 'why should I pay you more for doing the same job?'
Me: ' because I'm really good at what I do'
Him: ' so why should I pay you more for doing the job I hired you to do?'
Be prepared for a conversation like this.
Practice with a buddy as this sort of thing can really throw you off your game.
04-29-2017 | 04:46 PM
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You ask for a meeting, go in and be prepared to state your case. Explain your qualifications:
-hours
-responsibility
-ability to work well with others
-demonstrating good leadership
-successes In teamwork, working well with others.
-work history (never late, takes additional flights willingly)
Good luck! You deserve it.
There's nothing wrong with asking.
-hours
-responsibility
-ability to work well with others
-demonstrating good leadership
-successes In teamwork, working well with others.
-work history (never late, takes additional flights willingly)
Good luck! You deserve it.
There's nothing wrong with asking.
04-29-2017 | 04:47 PM
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I used to work for somebody who had a couple of degrees in Business.
So I go in asking for a raise.
He's like I was wondering when you'd come in.
I countered with 'well you could have offered'.
He's like 'why should I pay you more for doing the same job?'
Me: ' because I'm really good at what I do'
Him: ' so why should I pay you more for doing the job I hired you to do?'
Be prepared for a conversation like this.
Practice with a buddy as this sort of thing can really throw you off your game.
So I go in asking for a raise.
He's like I was wondering when you'd come in.
I countered with 'well you could have offered'.
He's like 'why should I pay you more for doing the same job?'
Me: ' because I'm really good at what I do'
Him: ' so why should I pay you more for doing the job I hired you to do?'
Be prepared for a conversation like this.
Practice with a buddy as this sort of thing can really throw you off your game.
04-29-2017 | 05:25 PM
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You can hit on some points here. If you can explain upgrading you to PIC will save their company money because you're already trained.
04-29-2017 | 06:21 PM
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04-29-2017 | 06:24 PM
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05-03-2017 | 05:48 PM
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Depending on the type of owner,it's a leverage game...
Like someone said, airlines are hiring.. I wouldn't say it as an altimatum though..
I'd go in and ask, state your case.. If they say no, get some airline interviews. When you get a hired letter from the airline, go back in and ask again, this time with an altimatum.
Having something to fall back on makes all the difference in the world when negotiating job terms.
Like someone said, airlines are hiring.. I wouldn't say it as an altimatum though..
I'd go in and ask, state your case.. If they say no, get some airline interviews. When you get a hired letter from the airline, go back in and ask again, this time with an altimatum.
Having something to fall back on makes all the difference in the world when negotiating job terms.
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