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Old 11-05-2017 | 06:56 AM
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I was wondering what everyone's thoughts are of a regional captain being able to leave 121 and hire direct entry into left seat corporate?
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Old 11-05-2017 | 07:14 AM
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The biggest challenge is realizing that a Corporate Captain is responsible for everything including dispatch, weather, weight and balance, rental cars for the boss. It is a less structured environment typically including training. I trained many Airline to Corporate pilots and they had a hard time with realizing that certain training organizations will not provide you with mandated call outs. Your flying skills should serve you well because you are doing more flying then the average Corporate gig. If you go to a private organization get ready for politics and a little sucking up too, it's just part of the game.
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Old 11-05-2017 | 08:36 AM
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Why do you want to make the switch? What do you think you will gain with the change?
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Old 11-05-2017 | 10:18 AM
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I think some regional pilots become dissatisfied and look for a change to corporate. If you are a currently a regional captain, it would be nice to make the change without being an FO.
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Old 11-05-2017 | 10:25 AM
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Originally Posted by jrav8r
I think some regional pilots become dissatisfied and look for a change to corporate. If you are a currently a regional captain, it would be nice to make the change without being an FO.
It all depends on where you get hired. Some places hire people as first officers, some people hire people directly as captains. But I would strongly suggest you stay at the regionals and try to get hired at a major. Unless you have really strong networking skills, and know the right people, it will be very hard to get a top tier corporate job.
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Old 11-05-2017 | 12:09 PM
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It’s certainly possible, but probably unlikely. Not because of flying skills as much as all the attendant stuff—dealing with your own dispatching, handling bills at FBOs, making arrangements, and just learning how the operator operates. It’s not rocket science, but just like at your airline there is lots of procedures and customs to adopt.

Likely harder to go direct into an international operation from regionals—several more layers of stuff. And you will need good contacts. Pilots with good corporate contacts have a huge advantage, get the really good gigs effortlessly.

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Old 11-05-2017 | 04:28 PM
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I took the "long" way round to the corporate pilot world. Regional FO -> Regional CA -> Left professional flying (6 years - did part time instructing) -> 135 SIC -> 135 PIC -> Corporate PIC

The 135 time was great for learning more about the charter and corporate environment. It's different than 121, but still not difficult just different.

I think going direct it'd be a difficult transition to make, unless you have some experience in that arena already. But passed that, just get used to cleaning and detailing planes. With the way salaries have gone in the regional world, financially it'd likely be a lateral...might make a little more corporate initially, but nothing compared to 121 major salaries...or 121 retirements (as they stand right now)
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Old 11-05-2017 | 04:43 PM
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Originally Posted by Bucknut
The biggest challenge is realizing that a Corporate Captain is responsible for everything including dispatch, weather, weight and balance, rental cars for the boss. It is a less structured environment typically including training. I trained many Airline to Corporate pilots and they had a hard time with realizing that certain training organizations will not provide you with mandated call outs. Your flying skills should serve you well because you are doing more flying then the average Corporate gig. If you go to a private organization get ready for politics and a little sucking up too, it's just part of the game.
Obviously, many corporate departments work this way but many do not. In operation, the flight crew isn't responsible at all for things like dispatch, weather, W&B, rental cars, hotel rooms, etc. We have other people to do those things and, we don't "scrimp" on the whatever it costs to be a safe operation. So, like most things in life, there are the good and there are the bad.
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Old 11-06-2017 | 10:55 AM
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Lucky8888,

While your operation was much like mine; compared to an airline, the corporate captain is much more “on the spot” when things go ****-eyed. There’s no “reserve” pilot available; if there’s a last minute change, it’s the captain that has to make it happen. The airline dispatcher has a legal responsibility to monitor and make decisions with the crew. No such legal position in corporate.

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Old 11-06-2017 | 04:34 PM
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Lucky8888,

While your operation was much like mine; compared to an airline, the corporate captain is much more “on the spot” when things go ****-eyed. There’s no “reserve” pilot available; if there’s a last minute change, it’s the captain that has to make it happen. The airline dispatcher has a legal responsibility to monitor and make decisions with the crew. No such legal position in corporate.

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