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Old 05-06-2019, 07:10 AM   #1  
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Default Refresher training CL601 and CE560

Iím trying to get back into flying business jets , have been away from it for about 25 years , Iím typed in the above business jets and need to get recurrent training ....... Any idea of recurrent training costs at the various training facilities ? Locations ? Iím a widebody Captain
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I’m trying to get back into flying business jets , have been away from it for about 25 years , I’m typed in the above business jets and need to get recurrent training ....... Any idea of recurrent training costs at the various training facilities ? Locations ? I’m a widebody Captain
Give CAE and Flight Safety a call... they provide accurate information. Well known 142 schools are recognized by both flight departments and insurance carriers.
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601s are getting pretty thin and often flown by dodgy operations.
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Youíre going to need full initial classes. You need an initial after 3 years for part 91 and after 2 years for 135.
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Youíre going to need full initial classes. You need an initial after 3 years for part 91 and after 2 years for 135.
JTwift, can you reference the FAA Regulation that states this? I admit that I don't know all the regs by heart, but I have never seen a 3 year or 2 year mandate to retake an initial course. Is this a part 142 school requirement?
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601s are getting pretty thin and often flown by dodgy operations.
And the FAA/USAF DET 1
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JTwift, can you reference the FAA Regulation that states this? I admit that I don't know all the regs by heart, but I have never seen a 3 year or 2 year mandate to retake an initial course. Is this a part 142 school requirement?
I donít know about P91, but I think it is 3 years by our rules (P135).
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Didnít know they had 601s.

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Didnít know they had 601s.

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Yep - three of them that the USAF bought Flight Inspection years ago for the DET 1 upstairs doing the war zone stuff and the FAA flies them Internationally (Europe and awhile ago in the Pacific) and Domestically.

As you say - they are getting long in the tooth though and are looking at replacing them with either more -605s (or maybe -650s so says possible rumor control)
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JTwift, can you reference the FAA Regulation that states this? I admit that I don't know all the regs by heart, but I have never seen a 3 year or 2 year mandate to retake an initial course. Is this a part 142 school requirement?
Ok, here's the update answer. 60 months for 135 and you need a new initial class. For part 91, there's technically no expiration, as long as you can pass the required training for a recurrent.

However, insurance/underwriters may have a say in those numbers.

So, yeah, 60 months/infinity are the technically correct answers. I HAVE had people come through initial just outside a 3 year window because their respective employers required it.

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