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Old 10-20-2021 | 12:59 PM
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Originally Posted by lear 31 pilot
It’s really just come to the point of not worth arguing over, or trying to change their minds. They have made their self induced red line in the sand, good luck to them, just don’t come crying to me when you are broke.
LOL! I have the same opinion but from the other side....no use arguing with ghost.
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Old 10-23-2021 | 12:17 PM
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With all due respect, which I almost always would have for a contentious objector, I just cant fathom that you would quit a job as a Boeing Captain over a vaccine requirement. I understand that passions are high and we all need to stand up for our beliefs, but to give up a job like this in a society where everything is mandated? You're going to fall on your sword over this ONE thing when the government already mandates that you: Register your car and pay taxes, register yourself and be licensed to drive. Pay federal and state taxes. Educate your kids, dont steal (etc etc on all of the laws). Hell the government even mandates that you go have a doctors exam every 6 months! Thats a serious infringement on liberty. I could go on and on. Without getting political, I wonder if this one mandate is becoming such a rallying cry simply because its coming from a Democrat in the White House in a time of unprecedented national political division.

I knew of a guy (disclaimer: details maybe not exact) years ago who was a sim instructor making upward of 250k. He was anti government and anti tax. He evaded paying taxes for years until Uncle Sam caught up with him. Rather than paying back taxes and settling, he fled during his court proceedings and was on the lam for several years. He was eventually caught and was living in someones basement working incognito in the service industry. Spent some time in jail and doesnt have a pot to **** in. I just dont get that.

Living well is the best defense. The vaccines may or may not be incredibly effective but the dangers are minuscule compared to Covid. I know of no one who has even had a serious complication. I know of a half dozen people who either died or almost died from Covid. I'd seriously consider this decision. You have 13 years left to make buttloads of money and retire a millionaire. Or you can throw it all away over the latest in a lifetime worth of mandates that you have been, and will continue to live under for the rest of your life. Seems like a rethink is seriously in order to me...

Good luck either way.
There is a huge difference between mandating they register a car, get a drivers or pilots license, hold certifications, get a flight physical. and injecting drugs into your body.

If they can mandate what goes into your body, then they can mandate what comes out too.
I guess that whole right to be secure in your person and effects from unreasonable government intrusion kinda missed you.
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Old 10-23-2021 | 08:23 PM
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Originally Posted by Cujo665
There is a huge difference between mandating they register a car, get a drivers or pilots license, hold certifications, get a flight physical. and injecting drugs into your body.

If they can mandate what goes into your body, then they can mandate what comes out too.
I guess that whole right to be secure in your person and effects from unreasonable government intrusion kinda missed you.
Beyond that, it makes it so that your personal medical decisions are no longer private and are subject to the direction of your employer and/or whatever regime is occupying the executive branch of the federal government at the time. You think they're going to stop at two covid vaccine shots? The CDC is already talking about changing the definition of "fully vaccinated" to include the boosters. Do you know how much power the pharmaceutical industry has to keep this going if they are allowed to, and how profitable covid has been for them? They aren't going to let go on their own. They own the CDC, the FDA, most, if not all of the house and senate, and of course the president. In the last few months it has become quite obvious what a scam the "War On Terror" actually was (there were plenty of us that knew it from the beginning, but the last couple months have made it impossible to deny for everyone else), at least though you were able to opt out of that one and generally avoid the military industrial complex unless you volunteered for military service. The pharmaceutical industrial complex is the next game in town and this one is a whole different story, you won't be able to opt out of this one.
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Old 10-23-2021 | 08:24 PM
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Originally Posted by Cujo665
There is a huge difference between mandating they register a car, get a drivers or pilots license, hold certifications, get a flight physical. and injecting drugs into your body.

If they can mandate what goes into your body, then they can mandate what comes out too.
I guess that whole right to be secure in your person and effects from unreasonable government intrusion kinda missed you.

no it did not miss me. I get the premise just fine. Perhaps my point was missed. You live in a world of mandates including vaccine mandates. You always have and for the time being you
will certainly continue.

to decide to throw away your career over this particular intrusion into your personal freedoms seems suspect to me.

As I said before, If that’s what the OP really wants ( or anyone else), by all means knock yourselves out.
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Old 10-25-2021 | 05:27 AM
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Originally Posted by RI830
Those in charge here are very quick to censor the pleebs.
I got a three day ban for saying that a mod would censor info.
Their house, their rules. Don’t like it? Go start a forum of your own.
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Old 10-25-2021 | 11:47 AM
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Originally Posted by ZapBrannigan
Their house, their rules. Don’t like it? Go start a forum of your own.
Please share where in the Terms and Conditions that your opposing ideas or criticism will be censored.
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Old 10-25-2021 | 12:26 PM
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Originally Posted by RI830
Please share where in the Terms and Conditions that your opposing ideas or criticism will be censored.
Beats me. But it’s a free site. You get exactly what you pay for. Seems to me if you’re saying things they don’t like they can invite you to take it outside. Now if you were paying for the service, that might be different.
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Old 10-25-2021 | 02:34 PM
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Originally Posted by RI830
You apparently are on the compliant side of censorship.

Carry on Comrade!
No he just realizes that if the Mods here want to censor the lies and conspiracy theories they see as toxic there is nothing you can do about it, it’s a free private message board. I don’t understand what is so hard for people to understand, Freedom of speech protects your right to criticize your government without fear of punishment from your Government. A private message board like this does not fall under any of that.
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Old 10-25-2021 | 02:36 PM
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Originally Posted by RI830
I would like to see the censorship and banning statistics for RickAir and other mods.
Rickair is the most active and opinionated mod.

He is the one who issued my ban.
I feel he isn’t fit to be a mod
He issued mine too! I'm sure we're both in for another one. It sure seems like he is the only mod, but there are several members who can help him out! Lol.

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Old 10-25-2021 | 02:58 PM
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Originally Posted by lear 31 pilot
No he just realizes that if the Mods here want to censor the lies and conspiracy theories they see as toxic there is nothing you can do about it, it’s a free private message board. I don’t understand what is so hard for people to understand, Freedom of speech protects your right to criticize your government without fear of punishment from your Government. A private message board like this does not fall under any of that.
There in lies the problem. The mods are determining what or truth and lie.
We sit in the very angry and vitriolic 3rd inning and you and the mods think they have the 9th inning figured out.

You have no clue of the long term side effect of covid recovery or the vaccine. But if you question it……you’re a liar, conspiracy theory nut and a liability to society.

I’m waiting till Boe Jiden mandates anal plugs to prevent covid spread. How hardy to the fight will you and your comrade brethren be to intake your duty to society?
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