3M company
08-14-2007, 10:40 AM
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3M company
Does anyone have any information about 3M's flight department? Just curious about requirments, schedules, pay, benefits etc..
Thanks a lot
P.s. Do you know if corporate pilots are CASS? Or if they recieve any airline benefits? I am just beging to look into the coporate side and don't know much about this aspect of aviaiton
Thanks a lot
P.s. Do you know if corporate pilots are CASS? Or if they recieve any airline benefits? I am just beging to look into the coporate side and don't know much about this aspect of aviaiton
08-14-2007, 12:04 PM
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Don't know anything about QOL/pay/etc, but here's the company info:
3M Company
Aviation Department
690 Bayfield St.
St. Paul, MN 55107
Daniel P. Brunsvold, Chief Pilot/Dir. Aviation
3M operates a flee to 5 G-V aircraft. I'd imagine that requirements are "industry standard" or 3000+ TT/1000+ Turbine/GV Type w/ time in type and ATP. I'd also surmise that you probably need to have an inside connection of some sort to have a really good shot at a job.
3M Company
Aviation Department
690 Bayfield St.
St. Paul, MN 55107
Daniel P. Brunsvold, Chief Pilot/Dir. Aviation
3M operates a flee to 5 G-V aircraft. I'd imagine that requirements are "industry standard" or 3000+ TT/1000+ Turbine/GV Type w/ time in type and ATP. I'd also surmise that you probably need to have an inside connection of some sort to have a really good shot at a job.
08-14-2007, 12:10 PM
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As an addon to my first post-
No. Corporate pilots don't get jumpseating or travel benefits, nor are they CASS or eligible to participate in other airline programs such as FFDO. Depending on the company though, there may be company provided benefits that airline pilots don't have, such as:
Company Cars
Profit Sharing
Cash Bonuses
Stock Purchase Programs
Personal Days/Company Holidays
Hotel Points/Aviation/FBO Rewards (AvCard/Atlantic Bucks/etc)
Expense Accounts
Personal Use of the Company Aircraft
Paid Trips for Spouse to Accompany on Flights
Better Retirement/Pension Benefits
No. Corporate pilots don't get jumpseating or travel benefits, nor are they CASS or eligible to participate in other airline programs such as FFDO. Depending on the company though, there may be company provided benefits that airline pilots don't have, such as:
Company Cars
Profit Sharing
Cash Bonuses
Stock Purchase Programs
Personal Days/Company Holidays
Hotel Points/Aviation/FBO Rewards (AvCard/Atlantic Bucks/etc)
Expense Accounts
Personal Use of the Company Aircraft
Paid Trips for Spouse to Accompany on Flights
Better Retirement/Pension Benefits
08-14-2007, 03:58 PM
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also need 1000 hr in the space shuttle to be a strong canaditate. rode home on the airline one day with couple of thier pilots and that was thier exact words. I had just under 5000tt then with 2 types and was told I wouldnt even be competitive
08-15-2007, 05:32 AM
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Originally Posted by FlyerJosh
As an addon to my first post-
No. Corporate pilots don't get jumpseating or travel benefits, nor are they CASS or eligible to participate in other airline programs such as FFDO. Depending on the company though, there may be company provided
No. Corporate pilots don't get jumpseating or travel benefits, nor are they CASS or eligible to participate in other airline programs such as FFDO. Depending on the company though, there may be company provided
08-15-2007, 08:15 AM
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Originally Posted by tathepilot
Not so true... MY company is not CASS (yet) I can travel on SWA, NWA, AW, Frontier, to name a few..
If you've figured out how to jumpseat as a corporate pilot, please share because I'd love to rejoin the ranks of free fliers!
08-15-2007, 09:33 AM
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Originally Posted by FlyerJosh
True, but I bet that you work for an FAR 121 (or one of a few select 135 or 91K) operators and not a part 91 CORPORATE operator.
If you've figured out how to jumpseat as a corporate pilot, please share because I'd love to rejoin the ranks of free fliers!
If you've figured out how to jumpseat as a corporate pilot, please share because I'd love to rejoin the ranks of free fliers!
08-15-2007, 11:12 AM
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Yes- that's my point. Corporate pilots (as stated in the original post) don't have airline jumpseat benefits, nor are they CASS.
Fractional and charter pilots may have such benefits, depending on the operator that they work for and the reciprocal agreements they have in effect.
Fractional and charter pilots may have such benefits, depending on the operator that they work for and the reciprocal agreements they have in effect.
08-15-2007, 03:47 PM
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I do not know of any strictly Part 91 operators that get jumpseat privileges on any airline.
There are many good benefits, like FlyerJosh mentioned. Friends/family riding on the corporate aircraft are taxed at the SIFL rate (tax on first class airline travel) if less than 50% of the seats are occupied by company passengers traveling on company business. Technically, you have to pay if you bring someone along on a trip.
Getting a company car allowance or personal use of the aircraft might have been benefits in the glory days of corporate aviation, but I do not know of anyone who receives that now. I work for a Fortune 100 company, we surely do not get those benefits. Possibly, the Director of Aviation or Chief Pilot might get that type of benefit, but not the line pilots.
Many companies now are eliminating pensions all together. Instead, they are contributing more to the 401k matching funds. I think the mantra in Corporate America today is to be lean and mean, and that applies to the flight department as well as to the people that work in cubicles.
There are many good benefits, like FlyerJosh mentioned. Friends/family riding on the corporate aircraft are taxed at the SIFL rate (tax on first class airline travel) if less than 50% of the seats are occupied by company passengers traveling on company business. Technically, you have to pay if you bring someone along on a trip.
Getting a company car allowance or personal use of the aircraft might have been benefits in the glory days of corporate aviation, but I do not know of anyone who receives that now. I work for a Fortune 100 company, we surely do not get those benefits. Possibly, the Director of Aviation or Chief Pilot might get that type of benefit, but not the line pilots.
Many companies now are eliminating pensions all together. Instead, they are contributing more to the 401k matching funds. I think the mantra in Corporate America today is to be lean and mean, and that applies to the flight department as well as to the people that work in cubicles.
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