Challenger 600
12-20-2007 | 05:06 AM
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From: CL604
Ziggy,
The short answer is NO. The CL604 is a different type (and frankly a different animal) than the CL600. Flight Safety does offer a "short course" for pilots who are already typed on the CL600. However, even THEY don't recommend it and suggest pilots who are transitioning take the full 19 day initial type class.
The CL600 and CL604 have lots of similarities but don't share the same automation philosophy. I know a few guys who have done the short course and without exception, they all wish they hadn't. Unless you are VERY familiar with Proline 4, I'd suggest the full course.
Hope this helped! Good luck.
Treetop
The short answer is NO. The CL604 is a different type (and frankly a different animal) than the CL600. Flight Safety does offer a "short course" for pilots who are already typed on the CL600. However, even THEY don't recommend it and suggest pilots who are transitioning take the full 19 day initial type class.
The CL600 and CL604 have lots of similarities but don't share the same automation philosophy. I know a few guys who have done the short course and without exception, they all wish they hadn't. Unless you are VERY familiar with Proline 4, I'd suggest the full course.
Hope this helped! Good luck.
Treetop
12-20-2007 | 07:50 PM
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From: CL604
Willie,
Don't mind a bit! I came up the ranks the civilian route...I started out as a CFI and moved into the 121 world after a couple of years. I spent a decent time doing that (and really enjoyed it!). After 9/11 the airline job really changed and my QOL declined to the point where I started looking at other options. I landed my first corporate job flying for a small company (CE500) in a small town. I enjoyed the corporate flying (close personal contact with pax, tight knit community, etc.) but I didn't see it as a long term job (management, maintenance (of lack thereof), A/C put on a 135 certificate). As anyone in corporate aviation will tell you, jobs are often obtained by being in the right place and the right time AND by selling yourself in an appropriate way. I'd been networking with the CP of my current company for almost two years and to my delight, when a job became available he called me for an interview. I got the job and the rest is history.
I'm often asked if I miss the airlines and my answer is "sort-of." I enjoyed the camaraderie amongst crew-members, the layovers and being able to simply check-in and check out at the end of a trip. What I DON'T miss is the constant feeling of being a "qualified number" and nothing else. I don't miss being forced by scheduling to reference my contract when assigned an illegal trip. In my current position, I am treated with incredible respect, have a GREAT schedule, and I'm known to those that I fly by my first name.
Thanks for asking!
Treetop
Don't mind a bit! I came up the ranks the civilian route...I started out as a CFI and moved into the 121 world after a couple of years. I spent a decent time doing that (and really enjoyed it!). After 9/11 the airline job really changed and my QOL declined to the point where I started looking at other options. I landed my first corporate job flying for a small company (CE500) in a small town. I enjoyed the corporate flying (close personal contact with pax, tight knit community, etc.) but I didn't see it as a long term job (management, maintenance (of lack thereof), A/C put on a 135 certificate). As anyone in corporate aviation will tell you, jobs are often obtained by being in the right place and the right time AND by selling yourself in an appropriate way. I'd been networking with the CP of my current company for almost two years and to my delight, when a job became available he called me for an interview. I got the job and the rest is history.
I'm often asked if I miss the airlines and my answer is "sort-of." I enjoyed the camaraderie amongst crew-members, the layovers and being able to simply check-in and check out at the end of a trip. What I DON'T miss is the constant feeling of being a "qualified number" and nothing else. I don't miss being forced by scheduling to reference my contract when assigned an illegal trip. In my current position, I am treated with incredible respect, have a GREAT schedule, and I'm known to those that I fly by my first name.
Thanks for asking!
Treetop
12-30-2007 | 05:23 AM
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FSI will always recommend 21 day $35K course over the lower price of the 10 day transition course. If you have any previous experience with an EICAS system and Collins FMS......this transition course should not be a problem. The aircraft systems are very similar and obviously improved with the 604/605. I would recommend getting a Pilot Training Manual and AFM prior to the course.
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