Originally Posted by BrandedPilot (Post 448266)

"Owned" huh?

I am RJ pilot, and not even close to being on reserve, nor did I furlough or downgrade. My flying began in the Navy through the Tactical Jet/Strike training program in Beeville, Texas. I choose this company for it's reasonable pay rates, (which are well above yours and still hard to live with) and location in proximity to my home in Corpus Christi.

My message: I hate to see guys take low paying jobs, not being totally educated on the situation. A college educated PILOT deserves far better, yet the airlines have slashed pay below that of a CFI... and now we see the corporate side do it also. Had you paid better, your pool of qualified applicants would be deeper and of higher quality, and likely would see lower turnover with higher morale.

I got $40.00 a hour at a part 141 school as a CFI/MEI (on active duty), and our full time CFI's made more than the King Air offer. In my location tips that matched the hourly rate were common, especially when our customer combined a vacation with new certificates (under time constraints).


I just love the attitude of the poster as well... your maturity and respect "shine" with comments such as "OWNED" when you do not hold the background knowledge of the person you are talking trash to.
Just saying....

Originally Posted by drvannostren (Post 449349)

Your flying began in the Navy, was it ever complete? Your leadership and professionalism do not exactly strike me as that of a naval aviator. Perhaps I am misreading your tone.

With thousands of professional aviators on the street, $40K living in TX may be exactly what a furloughed or fired pilot needs. Everyone has different needs. If the shoe fits they should wear it. Is this job right for me.....no. If someone can turn $40K into keeping the lights turned on and feeding the kids, then it is a fair wage (it can be done).

Enjoy your EMB while you still have it and hopefully you won't have to decide on whether you will wait for the unemployment check vs. taking that King Air job to pay the bills.

Welcome to aviation.

Originally Posted by Lear Dude (Post 448145)

Tell Stan to pony up about $12K more per year and he will get some quality candidates that he might be able to retain for awhile. Just out of curiosity, what does he pay his BE20 FOs? What year is this King Air?

Originally Posted by Sbaker1595 (Post 444674)

Branded...lets do some math.....simple grade school math....assume you are a new captain at a regional airline.. 60K annual is a good rough estimate of what you would make in that situation...now lets take your annual salay of 60k and divide it by the total hours your going to make in that year......lets say your going to work 800 hours a year at that airline..so essentially $75.per hour for that amount of work.now lets take the common fact that the corprate pilot will work 350 hours a year (which is what we are prospected to fly this year) and make 40k during that year....that comes to $114.00 per hour...if you can do basic math you will easily see that i am offering far better than the airline hourly pay...now lets add in expenses on the road...which are ALL paid for, healthcare benifits (which might i add are far better than ANY airline), yearly bounus, and paid vacation...in addition the option to have profit sharing options at years end....i would appriciate it if you knew the FACTS before you made negitive comments..lets keep this professional and not regress to the childhood pre k state that you made your comments in...thanks in advance :)