Hardest Bizjet to master
11-08-2008, 09:19 AM
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Hardest Bizjet to master
As a 2200 hour pilot getting ready to get a type rating of my own, I am curious as to what were some of your type ratings and what are some of the more difficult "bizjets" to master? (for example, difficult systems? touchy in the controls? etc....) What are some of the easier bizjets?
Also, maybe this post is more suited for the flight school or flight training sections, but for you pilots who have gone through this, any recommendations on type rating schools?.....CAE Simuflite vs. Flight Safety vs. SimComm, etc....
Also, maybe this post is more suited for the flight school or flight training sections, but for you pilots who have gone through this, any recommendations on type rating schools?.....CAE Simuflite vs. Flight Safety vs. SimComm, etc....
11-08-2008, 11:39 AM
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Originally Posted by CorporateFlyer
As a 2200 hour pilot getting ready to get a type rating of my own, I am curious as to what were some of your type ratings and what are some of the more difficult "bizjets" to master? (for example, difficult systems? touchy in the controls? etc....) What are some of the easier bizjets?
Also, maybe this post is more suited for the flight school or flight training sections, but for you pilots who have gone through this, any recommendations on type rating schools?.....CAE Simuflite vs. Flight Safety vs. SimComm, etc....
Also, maybe this post is more suited for the flight school or flight training sections, but for you pilots who have gone through this, any recommendations on type rating schools?.....CAE Simuflite vs. Flight Safety vs. SimComm, etc....
The worst handling plane that I am rated in/flown is an IA-Jet - Westwind. Horrible piece of junk.
I find FSI to be the better of the training facilities - but it all really depends on your instructors.
There's nothing harder about learning one business jet over the other.
Tell us what you are going to school on and where, we can likely get you some good info.
Good Luck.
11-08-2008, 12:10 PM
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Thanks NowCorporate. I will be going for a type rating in the Beechjet 400 and probably in the DFW area, but the location is still TBD. Most likely would be starting sometime in mid-December.
Funny you mentioned the Westwind, as I have spoken to some folks who have flown that and all I have heard was what a piece of junk it is. I have not had the opportunity to fly one of course, but back in the day when I used to pump fuel and tow planes at my local fbo, I remember that the ones that were the biggest pain to tow as far as the tow limits and towbar setup were always the westwinds....good memories. Anyways, thanks for the reply.
Funny you mentioned the Westwind, as I have spoken to some folks who have flown that and all I have heard was what a piece of junk it is. I have not had the opportunity to fly one of course, but back in the day when I used to pump fuel and tow planes at my local fbo, I remember that the ones that were the biggest pain to tow as far as the tow limits and towbar setup were always the westwinds....good memories. Anyways, thanks for the reply.
11-08-2008, 12:47 PM
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I hand fly a Lear 24 at FL450.
If you can do that, there's not a whole you can't do.
PS
That's not just once in awhile either.
That's how you have to fly it when you don't have an autopilot.
If you can do that, there's not a whole you can't do.
PS
That's not just once in awhile either.
That's how you have to fly it when you don't have an autopilot.
Last edited by ProceedOnCourse; 11-08-2008 at 12:49 PM. Reason: Oh yeah!
11-08-2008, 12:48 PM
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Originally Posted by CorporateFlyer
Thanks NowCorporate. I will be going for a type rating in the Beechjet 400 and probably in the DFW area, but the location is still TBD. Most likely would be starting sometime in mid-December.
Funny you mentioned the Westwind, as I have spoken to some folks who have flown that and all I have heard was what a piece of junk it is. I have not had the opportunity to fly one of course, but back in the day when I used to pump fuel and tow planes at my local fbo, I remember that the ones that were the biggest pain to tow as far as the tow limits and towbar setup were always the westwinds....good memories. Anyways, thanks for the reply.
Funny you mentioned the Westwind, as I have spoken to some folks who have flown that and all I have heard was what a piece of junk it is. I have not had the opportunity to fly one of course, but back in the day when I used to pump fuel and tow planes at my local fbo, I remember that the ones that were the biggest pain to tow as far as the tow limits and towbar setup were always the westwinds....good memories. Anyways, thanks for the reply.
And to be fair to the Westwind, it was a lot of airplane for the money. Its time has certainly come and go though..
A Beechjet initial is about as easy as it gets, ask around, you will get manuals, info, etc..but dont go crazy - initial in not hard, and tends to be longer than need be, even on your first type. Remember, you are a customer - they work for you.
Good Luck!
11-08-2008, 02:51 PM
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I've only taught at flight safety or more accurately, used there equipment while teaching, but have done an initial type at CAE and word on the street is that Flight safety is a little better in some aspects. However, I really enjoyed my time at CAE and learned a lot. Maybe it's best to say that there isnt that much difference and both have great instructors and equipment. Ive only fown one bizjet so my opinion would be worthless on which is hardest.
11-09-2008, 04:17 AM
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Originally Posted by ProceedOnCourse
I hand fly a Lear 24 at FL450.
That's how you have to fly it when you don't have an autopilot.
That's how you have to fly it when you don't have an autopilot.
Gulfstreams and Challengers are as stable as can be and handle like the Olds Toronado. Falcon series (especially the 50) are by far one of the best handling.Of course, all have their own quirks and will bite you if you don't pay attention, but fly it with a professional attitude and it will be the most fun you can have with your clothes on..
11-09-2008, 05:45 AM
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Originally Posted by ProceedOnCourse
I hand fly a Lear 24 at FL450.
If you can do that, there's not a whole you can't do.
PS
That's not just once in awhile either.
That's how you have to fly it when you don't have an autopilot.
If you can do that, there's not a whole you can't do.
PS
That's not just once in awhile either.
That's how you have to fly it when you don't have an autopilot.
If you can fly a Learjet, you can fly anything.
