Originally Posted by Sam McGowan
(Post 510497)
If you are typed in the airplane, you can log PIC time any time you are the sole manipulator of the controls per CFR 61. In other words, if it's your leg, you can log it even if you are assigned as SIC.
Originally Posted by Sam McGowan
(Post 510497)
If you are the assigned PIC you can log PIC time regardless of whether you're flying or not.
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Originally Posted by 250 or point 65
(Post 510353)
... can he not log those 10 minutes because he's not the "sole manipulator"?
I would say that if you are demoing to a student for any time other than a tiny portion of the flight (less than a tenth of an hour) TO SOMEONE THAT IS ALREADY RATED IN THE AIRCRAFT, then: 1. Technically, according to the regs, he can't log the entire flight time as PIC. 2. If you are doing a demo to a rated pilot, of any maneuver that takes more than about 30 seconds, that's pretty unusual. We aren't logging time to the nearest second, so the usual practice of "rounding" the rated student's "sole manipulator" time to the nearest tenth is reasonable. |
Originally Posted by DeanGibson
(Post 510506)
Yep.
Nope, unless you are an ATP in an ATP operation. |
Originally Posted by aero24
(Post 510972)
We were talking about this "ATP operation" the other day. What is it? I've never heard of it.
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Ah............i get it now any operation that requires an ATP aka 121 flying.
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Originally Posted by 250 or point 65
(Post 507764)
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FURTHERMORE, I can take a private pilot up to show him a takeoff, pattern, and landing and HE can log PIC if he never touches the controls because Dual given as a private is PIC. |
Originally Posted by Sam McGowan
(Post 510497)
If you are typed in the airplane, you can log PIC time any time you are the sole manipulator of the controls per CFR 61. ...
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Originally Posted by DSflyer05
(Post 509156)
Our trip sheets just name "crew members" (pilots) not captian and fo. On the last leg of the trip, or when we get back somebody says "well I'll go do the paperwork," and he goes and does it. Nobody has ever asked to "speak with the captian," so I guess I would just say can I help you. We also trade off tasks such as flight planning, so typically when I do the flightplans I put my name as PIC because we don't know which legs we will be flying in the left seat at that point, so it just makes it eaiser. At least Im glad to see that USMCFLYR agrees with the way I log my time anybody else have any input?
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got to agree with DSflyer05, we operate about the same exact way. log what you want, just be able to explain yourself as something more than a time-padding right seater
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Sometimes 121 can be a beautiful thing. No worries over this sort of stuff just CAs & FOs. :)
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