Eclipse 500
#22
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Joined APC: Jan 2011
Posts: 3
Guess this is why I love the internet, full of information, and even fuller of misinformation.
TBM700A/B both have lower useful loads with full fuel(which is 281gal) you would get about 264lbs useful(Actual number from a 700B we have in inventory). Sacrifice 80gal, gain 536lbs, and still go 700nm at around 275ktas, 50-55gph.
The 700C2 and 850's all have around 800+lbs with full fuel, so by far easier to load and go the long haul if desired. The 850's with the G1000 add an additional 10gal of useful also.
Now, my opinions on the EA500 are that initially, they just were way too far ahead of themselves before they even had some planes produced. I think the physical airframe itself is fantastic, but the systems leave something to be desired. I have noticed a lot more around the midwest since spring this year.
I was supposed to fly one at my old job(but the boss wisely bailed on them), but our check-airman started on his type rating and did say they flew very well, just you couldn't do anything with them due to all the "INOP" paperweights. I do believe the current owners will slowly improve on what they have, but if something breaks, no one really knows how they are going to be able to help out or how soon.
Depending on the range of trips, if you are looking at 700nm or less, a TBM700A/B(they should be in the $1.1-1.5mil range) or a used Piper Meridian wouldn't be a bad choice either in that price range. No type rating, lesser insurance costs, proven histories etc.. But, it's not a jet, so that always sways some folks.
TBM700A/B both have lower useful loads with full fuel(which is 281gal) you would get about 264lbs useful(Actual number from a 700B we have in inventory). Sacrifice 80gal, gain 536lbs, and still go 700nm at around 275ktas, 50-55gph.
The 700C2 and 850's all have around 800+lbs with full fuel, so by far easier to load and go the long haul if desired. The 850's with the G1000 add an additional 10gal of useful also.
Now, my opinions on the EA500 are that initially, they just were way too far ahead of themselves before they even had some planes produced. I think the physical airframe itself is fantastic, but the systems leave something to be desired. I have noticed a lot more around the midwest since spring this year.
I was supposed to fly one at my old job(but the boss wisely bailed on them), but our check-airman started on his type rating and did say they flew very well, just you couldn't do anything with them due to all the "INOP" paperweights. I do believe the current owners will slowly improve on what they have, but if something breaks, no one really knows how they are going to be able to help out or how soon.
Depending on the range of trips, if you are looking at 700nm or less, a TBM700A/B(they should be in the $1.1-1.5mil range) or a used Piper Meridian wouldn't be a bad choice either in that price range. No type rating, lesser insurance costs, proven histories etc.. But, it's not a jet, so that always sways some folks.
#23
New Hire
Joined APC: Jul 2010
Position: FAA Designated Pilot Examiner
Posts: 9
Contact Info re: Eclipse 500
Hi:
Feel free to contact me at (949) 254-4300 or [email protected]
I can provide Initial, recurrent, SIC and 135 training, as well as issue your pilot certificate as a pilot examiner in this aircraft. greg webster
Feel free to contact me at (949) 254-4300 or [email protected]
I can provide Initial, recurrent, SIC and 135 training, as well as issue your pilot certificate as a pilot examiner in this aircraft. greg webster
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Hoping someone may know the answer:
For doing instrument and pattern training, what kind of fuel burn can you expect? Let's say, based on a 1.3 hour flight where you do instrument approaches, and some VFR patterns.
Hoping someone may know the answer:
For doing instrument and pattern training, what kind of fuel burn can you expect? Let's say, based on a 1.3 hour flight where you do instrument approaches, and some VFR patterns.
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