G450/g550
08-24-2011, 12:48 PM
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Originally Posted by Fred Flintstone
7X, where are you going to do your training?
I was a 450 sim instructor for a short time in SAV. I loved the plane, loved SAV. You will find the avionics similar and the performance spectacular.
Not familiar with the FBW in the 7X but find the A320 FBW sloppy. OTOH, the G450/550 is a busier plane with really ancient systems behind the fancy glass.
Enjoy!
I was a 450 sim instructor for a short time in SAV. I loved the plane, loved SAV. You will find the avionics similar and the performance spectacular.
Not familiar with the FBW in the 7X but find the A320 FBW sloppy. OTOH, the G450/550 is a busier plane with really ancient systems behind the fancy glass.
Enjoy!
I am not sure where or when (exactly) I am going. It might be SAV/FSI (fingers crossed) or one of the CAE facilities. We are still negotiating the training contract.
Let me say that I really like the 7X and enjoy flying it. The FBW has been flawless.....Dassault support....not so much.....
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08-24-2011, 12:49 PM
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Originally Posted by NowCorporate
7X can be buggy!...but no way can the FBW be called sloppy.
IMO, nicest handling airplane I have flown.
Disclaimer: I never flew an A320 or another FBW plane.
IMO, nicest handling airplane I have flown.
Disclaimer: I never flew an A320 or another FBW plane.
Absolutely agree! (as I usuallly do with you
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08-24-2011, 12:49 PM
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G450
Originally Posted by Fred Flintstone
7X, where are you going to do your training?
I was a 450 sim instructor for a short time in SAV. I loved the plane, loved SAV. You will find the avionics similar and the performance spectacular.
Not familiar with the FBW in the 7X but find the A320 FBW sloppy. OTOH, the G450/550 is a busier plane with really ancient systems behind the fancy glass.
Enjoy!
I was a 450 sim instructor for a short time in SAV. I loved the plane, loved SAV. You will find the avionics similar and the performance spectacular.
Not familiar with the FBW in the 7X but find the A320 FBW sloppy. OTOH, the G450/550 is a busier plane with really ancient systems behind the fancy glass.
Enjoy!
(I also had an instructor at SAV who left for the airlines to fly 320s I believe...)
The 450's a great jet, with lots of redundancy (the ancient systems are ones improved upon from the well-proven G-IV). The Cursor Control Device which runs your displays, takes no time at all to become comfortable with. (Then again, it designed by a former F-16 guy, so I may be biased.)
The pressurization system is a bit "bumpy," the TR's are quick but don't do a whole lot, and there are a few annoying computer glitches at startup every once in a while that requires you to fully power down the jet to get them to clear.
HUD/EVS works very well, and with Cert Fox Enhanced $$$, you get LPV approaches and CPDLC ADS-C (which is very nice).
Best of luck.
08-24-2011, 02:13 PM
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Originally Posted by 7Xdriver
Hmmm...Sorry Red if I gave you the impressions that I have flown Gulfstreams and Globals. I have not....just Hawkers, Citations and Falcons.
08-24-2011, 02:30 PM
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By sloppy I mean in managed mode. In selected mode it is as responsive as a 170,000 lb school bus can be. Every summer playing dodge ball in the mid 30s I wish I could be in the mid 40s zipping along! Alas, FSI is poverty work, but good folks.
Enjoy your new Rolls Royce 7X!
Enjoy your new Rolls Royce 7X!
08-24-2011, 07:24 PM
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Like the previous guy said, the G450/550 systems aren't anywhere near ancient. True they're similar in many ways to the Classic G-IV but they've improved upon the systems without trying to change the concept. Why fix it if it isn't broken?
09-02-2011, 07:31 AM
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What I hear the most about Gulfstreams compared to Falcons are the handling qualities. I've never flown a Falcon but I hear they are a blast to hand fly. The Gulfstream is like a truck in comparison. They have a much slower response time, especially in an unusual attitude recovery. It takes a lot of rudder to lift the wing up when you need it. I personally like the 550 better than the 450. The wing is larger and more efficient. Very low approach speeds at light weight. Easy to fly.
09-02-2011, 02:20 PM
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Thanks Sooner,
I have heard the same. I get the impression that even though the Gulfstream might be like flying a truck, it is the answer to a lot of questions.
I love Falcons, but I do not like the French attitude and look forward to better worldwide support.
KL
I have heard the same. I get the impression that even though the Gulfstream might be like flying a truck, it is the answer to a lot of questions.
I love Falcons, but I do not like the French attitude and look forward to better worldwide support.
KL
