First Class Medical required for Pt.91 in EU?
09-18-2012 | 06:59 PM
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First Class Medical required for Pt.91 in EU?
Did a search but didn't find my answer, sooooo
Is a FAA First Class Medical required for Pt. 91 turbojet operation (CJ4) in the EU, specifically Iceland & Ireland? Both PIC & SIC? Thanks!
Is a FAA First Class Medical required for Pt. 91 turbojet operation (CJ4) in the EU, specifically Iceland & Ireland? Both PIC & SIC? Thanks!
09-19-2012 | 06:14 AM
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From FAA InFO 07014, which mostly deals w Pt 121, but the below paragraph sounds like it's directed at everyone:
Foreign Regulations. U.S. pilots flying in foreign airspace are required to meet the licensing requirements of the respective country. Many European countries specifically require compliance with ICAO licensing standards which specify that an SIC must hold a first-class medical certificate for international air transportation. Aviation authorities of a foreign country could take action against both the individual and the air carrier if a pilot fails to meet its licensing requirements.
Foreign Regulations. U.S. pilots flying in foreign airspace are required to meet the licensing requirements of the respective country. Many European countries specifically require compliance with ICAO licensing standards which specify that an SIC must hold a first-class medical certificate for international air transportation. Aviation authorities of a foreign country could take action against both the individual and the air carrier if a pilot fails to meet its licensing requirements.
09-19-2012 | 06:57 AM
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It's highly recommended. The big issue is telling the boss he can't fly his jet when he wanted to because a SAFO inspector needs to obtain clarification on your medical status.
09-20-2012 | 04:32 AM
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When you compare what constitutes a first class medical in the EU with what constitutes a second class medical in the US you will find that the US second class medical meets the EU's first class requirements.
Here is the rub, though - the inspectors on the ramp don't care unless your ticket says "first class" on it. I have it on good authority that no matter how well you demonstrate and compare the requirements for the inspector on the ramp, all he wants to see is "first class" on the medical certificate.
It doesn't seem right or fair, but that is the way it is right now. I know it is a pain. It's up to us to convince the owners of this reality.
Here is the rub, though - the inspectors on the ramp don't care unless your ticket says "first class" on it. I have it on good authority that no matter how well you demonstrate and compare the requirements for the inspector on the ramp, all he wants to see is "first class" on the medical certificate.
It doesn't seem right or fair, but that is the way it is right now. I know it is a pain. It's up to us to convince the owners of this reality.
09-20-2012 | 05:47 AM
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Getting jammed up by some European ramp inspector who doesn't understand the regs isn't worth saving a hundred bucks. Both guys should have a first anytime you leave the US in my humble opinion, required or not.
09-20-2012 | 11:07 AM
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another point hopefully someone here can confirm...
I've heard that the SAFA folks have given crews a hard time in regards to calendar date expiration for medicals. i.e. it's the 20th of Sep 2012 and your medical date was 10th of Sept 2011, some have viewed this as expired.
I've heard that the SAFA folks have given crews a hard time in regards to calendar date expiration for medicals. i.e. it's the 20th of Sep 2012 and your medical date was 10th of Sept 2011, some have viewed this as expired.
09-20-2012 | 02:00 PM
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You could be totally right and have every jars icaos fars reg printed out with a bulletproof interpretation of it. All it takes is one inspector to second guess it and seek clarification and suddenly you're stuck over there, with the bosses plane, and missing an expensive slot time. Then your stuck airlining back over there to sort out the certificate action you were totally right on. Get the medical and sleep well. I wish the multiple parties would just come out with a common opinion on this---then make it a fact.
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