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Old 05-02-2014 | 05:52 AM
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I'm new to the Part 91 Single-Pilot Jet Game. Most of my experience was Part 121 so I'm still trying to get a good grasp of the differences in regs. Here's my situation:

My last three night landings (all in type) were on 2/6, 3/6, and 3/7. My night landing currency will expire under 61.57(b) on 5/7.

My question is with 61.57(e)(3) which is an exception to 61.57(b). I have a CE525(S) with no SOE restriction and I always operate single-pilot. I meet all the requirements of 61.57(e)(3)i and 61.57(e)(3)ii except for the statement about
"turbine-powered airplane that is type certificated for more than one pilot crewmember."
Does the CJ2 count as this even though I operate it with only one crewmember?

The TCDS (A1W1) states the following for Minimum Crew:
"One pilot (in the left pilot seat) plus additional equipment as specified in the
Kinds of Operations Equipment List (KOEL) contained in the Limitations
Section of the FAA Approved Airplane Flight Manual
OR
One pilot and one copilot"
Since it is certified for one pilot and one copilot does 61.57(e)(3) apply even though I operate it without a copilot?

Does this exception even apply to me in my situation? Note that I only fly the CJ2 but have about 50 hours within the past 90 days. Just not many night landings.

Thanks for the help!
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Old 05-02-2014 | 04:48 PM
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CE-510's and CE-525's are certified for single-pilot operation. You have an "S" rating so you are good to go and don't require a second pilot unless (1) you have an OPS manual that specifies two-pilot operation or (2) your insurance company requires two pilots which doesn't sound like it does in your case.
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Old 05-02-2014 | 06:37 PM
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Originally Posted by Lucky8888
CE-510's and CE-525's are certified for single-pilot operation. You have an "S" rating so you are good to go and don't require a second pilot unless (1) you have an OPS manual that specifies two-pilot operation or (2) your insurance company requires two pilots which doesn't sound like it does in your case.
Thanks for the response! I'm good on all that and understand that. My question pertained to the alternate compliance with night landing currency found in 61.57(e). It states you must be operating an aircraft which is type certified for two pilots. Which it is, but it's also certified for one.

The FAA clarified for me and it sounds like I'm good to go.
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Old 05-02-2014 | 07:44 PM
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Originally Posted by tcraft
The FAA clarified for me and it sounds like I'm good to go.
I'd certainly get that in writing from the FSDO who clarified. You know how uniform the FAA is.
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Old 05-03-2014 | 12:10 AM
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Originally Posted by tcraft
Thanks for the response! I'm good on all that and understand that. My question pertained to the alternate compliance with night landing currency found in 61.57(e). It states you must be operating an aircraft which is type certified for two pilots. Which it is, but it's also certified for one.

The FAA clarified for me and it sounds like I'm good to go.
Good. Glad to hear it. The whole purpose of having a single pilot type rating is so you can fly single-pilot, day or night. When I had a CJ4, I flew all the time at night (usually doing night landings - duh) and never had a problem.
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