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Originally Posted by RI830
(Post 1764776)
Marketing brilliance on behalf of manufactuers when they do this.
Buy the $100 widget and for another $20, we will unlock it's full capabilities. |
Talking 75M and showers etc. Why not a BBJ ? I get the ramp space issue, but what else ?
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Handling fees get pretty steep for BBJs. An operator told me they always called posing as their DA 900, then asked about a BBJ--2-3 times the price. Maintenance is cheaper than the Global/G550 but that's offset by greater fuel burns. Resale tends to be the decider--depreciation on BBJs is steep and finding a buyer can bad troublesome.
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Originally Posted by satpak77
(Post 1764930)
Talking 75M and showers etc. Why not a BBJ ? I get the ramp space issue, but what else ?
With the BBJ, you also get limited on airports you can go to. Pretty cool airplane anyway! |
Originally Posted by RI830
(Post 1761798)
The boss is set to trade in for a G650 soon. At least that what he says. We will believe it when we pick it up! But any who....
Looking for info from guys currently on the airframe for their pros and cons. I have spoken to guys on the road and they have mixed feelings about the aircraft. Pros: - FAST - Huge wing will save you on a shuttle approach - Trailing link gear - Bigger paycheck Cons - annoying and time-consuming preflight checks - less automation (coming from a previous Global crew who said he likes the Global better) - 14 hr endurance Any other operational thoughts are appreciated. Everything you said and then some - the <5000' cabin altitudes are a noticed difference. Cons- Still tweaking the interior issues - lots of flex in the somewhat oval cross section. We don't have a crew rest so the leg length isn't a factor. As far as time consumption in the pre-flight- it isn't unduly long and the flows make sense. |
Originally Posted by Ionosphere
(Post 1765048)
Pros-
Everything you said and then some - the <5000' cabin altitudes are a noticed difference. Cons- Still tweaking the interior issues - lots of flex in the somewhat oval cross section. We don't have a crew rest so the leg length isn't a factor. As far as time consumption in the pre-flight- it isn't unduly long and the flows make sense. Welcome to APF! What type of interior issues have you experienced? How has Gulfstream been in repairing these issues? Has the airplane met the performance expectations stated by Gulfstream? Thanks |
Originally Posted by satpak77
(Post 1764930)
Talking 75M and showers etc. Why not a BBJ ? I get the ramp space issue, but what else ?
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Originally Posted by Climbto450
(Post 1765305)
Plus you are flying around in the 30's not the 40's.
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I think BBJs are excluded from a few of the popular corporate airports (kteb and aspen as I recall). Ramp space maybe a problem. Also just on weight alone your PCN's will be higher and limit you. Not even sure if Boeing really evn produces a BBJ per se anymore completion-wise. It may sell a 737, recommend an interior company, and send a bbj sticker a little later.
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So you ask about the pros and cons of the 650 and most of the discussion centers around rather or not it should have a shower. Ha ha! Life sounds pretty tough for you there Ryan!
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