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Old 05-15-2015, 07:10 PM
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Originally Posted by Twin Wasp View Post
You want to say which part is incorrect?

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The part where you say he will have a "stand alone" FAA airman certificate, which simply isn't true:

F. Duration. A § 61.75 U.S. pilot certificate issued on the basis of a foreign pilot license remains in effect as long as the foreign pilot license used to obtain the U.S. pilot certificate is valid.

As you can see, it is valid only as long as the foreign pilot license is valid....which is to say that his FAA airman certificate is NOT a stand alone certificate.
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The OP is not asking to get a FAA Private Pilot Certificate on the basis of his foreign license, so 61.75 doesn't apply, period. You can't get a FAA ATP from 61.75, only a Private. He doesn't even have to go down the 61.75 route at all.

He wants to get a FAA ATP. He meets the requirements of 61.153(d)(3) because (presumably) he holds a Brazilian Commercial/Instrument or ATP. He will still have to complete a CTP, written and practical test in order to get his FAA ATP. As a result, he will have a stand alone FAA ATP since he will have passed the written and practical FAA tests. His Brazilian license is only used to meet 1 of the eligibility requirements, he is not being handed a FAA ATP purely on the basis of having passed Brazilian tests. Nowhere in 61.151 through 61.170 (the ATP section of the Part 61) does it require him to keep his Brazilian license valid after getting his FAA ATP in order to continue exercising his FAA ATP privileges.
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Old 05-15-2015, 08:45 PM
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Originally Posted by Xdashdriver View Post
The OP is not asking to get a FAA Private Pilot Certificate on the basis of his foreign license, so 61.75 doesn't apply, period. You can't get a FAA ATP from 61.75, only a Private. He doesn't even have to go down the 61.75 route at all.

He wants to get a FAA ATP. He meets the requirements of 61.153(d)(3) because (presumably) he holds a Brazilian Commercial/Instrument or ATP. He will still have to complete a CTP, written and practical test in order to get his FAA ATP. As a result, he will have a stand alone FAA ATP since he will have passed the written and practical FAA tests. His Brazilian license is only used to meet 1 of the eligibility requirements, he is not being handed a FAA ATP purely on the basis of having passed Brazilian tests. Nowhere in 61.151 through 61.170 (the ATP section of the Part 61) does it require him to keep his Brazilian license valid after getting his FAA ATP in order to continue exercising his FAA ATP privileges.
You're right. 61.75 has nothing to do with it. I only commented on that because it was used as an earlier reference.

Actually, 61.39 is in play here.

All the letter of foreign verification is used for is to allow the applicant to meet the enrollment prerequisites of a curriculum that leads to either the issuance of an ATP, a type rating, or both.

61.39

Prerequisites for practical tests.

(e) A person is not required to comply with the provisions of paragraph (a)(6) of this section if that person:

(1) Holds a foreign pilot license issued by a contracting State to the Convention on International Civil Aviation that authorizes at least the privileges of the pilot certificate sought;
(2) Is only applying for a type rating; or

(3) Is applying for an airline transport pilot certificate or an additional rating to an airline transport pilot certificate in an aircraft that does not require an aircraft type rating practical test.

Because that process (foreign verification) was used as the basis for qualification for course enrollment, the FAA certificate will be issued with the following:

ISSUED ON THE BASIS OF AND VALID ONLY WHEN ACCOMPANIED BY [NAME OF COUNTRY] PILOT LICENSE NO. [NUMBER FROM FOREIGN PILOT LICENSE]. ALL LIMITATIONS AND RESTRICTIONS ON THE [NAME OF THE COUNTRY] LICENSE APPLY
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The OP could always contact the training provider for confirmation of the above, as they will likely have to sponsor his student visa anyway, and they will be familiar with this process and how the certificate will be issued.
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61.39(e) simply says you don't need a signoff for an ATP checkride. The OP, who has probably run for the hills by now, falls under 61.153(d)(3). They would complete all the training and checking for their ATP that a native born American who held a FAA commercial certificate would complete. The only time you'll see the text "ISSUED ON THE BASIS OF AND VALID ONLY WHEN ..." is on a 61.75 private or very old 61.75 commercial but it's been almost 20 years since the FAA issued commercials under 61.75.

The FAA guidance for issuing an ATP makes no mention of the limiting text even when the applicant qualifies under 61.153(d)(3).

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From FSIMS:

Place the following limitation on the person’s § 61.75 U.S. pilot certificate: “ISSUED ON THE BASIS OF AND VALID ONLY WHEN ACCOMPANIED BY [NAME OF COUNTRY] PILOT LICENSE NO. [NUMBER FROM FOREIGN PILOT LICENSE]. ALL LIMITATIONS AND RESTRICTIONS ON THE [NAME OF COUNTRY] PILOT LICENSE APPLY” under the ratings in block XII. If the pilot certificate is not being issued under the provisions of § 61.75, this limitation would not be necessary.

All the inspector needs to do for a 61.153(d)(3) situation is to get the verification from AFS-760, and issue a standard U.S. pilot certificate.

I went through all of this years ago. I got a 61.75 private certificate on the basis of a foreign license. I then used that certificate as a basis for my eligibility to go for a FAA Commercial Pilot certificate. The 61.75 cert had the above language on it, but the Commercial did not, because I took and passed all the required FAA tests. Same thing for this guy, except he doesn't need a 61.75 certificate in the first place. I did because I wanted to fly while I was preparing for my Commercial tests.
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Old 06-20-2015, 05:05 PM
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Hi everyone!!!!!
I want to thank you all for spending your procious time to give me your answers and guidance in this matter. Based on posted, I have lots of things to check on new FAA procedures. IŽll be working on it so that I continue focused to get it.

Appreciate it.

Bst Personal Regards.

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