rickair7777

Everybody seems to think the EU utopia is so much more enlightened and sophisticated than us freedumb lovin' 'merican rednecks....

EU is spending billions on vaccine pre-purchase:

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-h...-idUSKBN23P1PU

Gundriver64

I for one don't take for granted the goodness we all have living in this country-not for a single second.

The bigger question is what tech-geek is going to create a black market RFI type reader that detects "mark of the beast" nano tech chips hidden within the vaccine serum?

WhiskyWhisky

https://www.marketwatch.com/story/he...eam-2020-06-19

"2. Food and Drug Administration (FDA) approval of a vaccine ahead of voting could have an impact on the elections, possibly swaying the outcome in favor of President Trump."

RhinoPherret

BOTH political parties and their associated politicians and special interest groups have been using the CoVid19 virus to sway the presidential as well as other elections since it got notice in the U.S. Nothing new about this. People will keep allowIng and enabling this pathetic fact through their ever blind allegiance to one political party or the other. Politicians and political parties depend on this and have manipulation of people down to a perfect art (science).

Excargodog

Everybody desperately working to perfect a vaccine while there is still a market for it. And no, we are not averaging 636 people a day dying OF COVID 19. We may not even be averaging 673 people a day dying WITH COVID 19, since a positive test is not required for this diagnosis and any Medicare patient dying that meets rather loose criteria (Fever, temperature, respiratory component to illness) and CLAIMED as a COVID 19 death pays the medical facility far more IN TREATMENT COSTS than a death due to COPD from 45 pack years of smoking, 40 years of untreated high blood pressure leading to kidney failure, uncontrolled type 2 diabetes, and a cold.

But even with an immunization, the idea that not having COVID will stop these people from dying is ...unrealistic.





And realize the above comorbidities are not exclusive of one another. MOST fatalities had ar least several. A few had all 12. And even before the onset of COVID-19, the median life expectancy of these people was not high. The median survival rate for people in the US placed in long term care facilities before COVID was 2.2 years. Mortality averaged about 35% per year in this cohort of the population.

GeeWizDriver

Dang it Dog, haven't I told you to stop it with the facts?

According to Worldometers, the US has experienced 7047 cases per million and 369 deaths per million in population.

In France, where I sit typing this, they have had 2453 cases per million and yet 454 deaths per million.

We have performed MILLIONS more tests capturing a wider cross-section of the public and revealed the mortality rate to be much lower (and largely confined to those with co-morbidities) than the Chicken Littles would have had us believe.

But the French seem far less panicked than we are despite their higher case fatality rate. They are mostly reopened. Social distancing is ONE meter. Masks are required in shops but not restaurants and not "in public" (unlike California where three days ago the restaurant host said I HAD to put on a mask to walk 13 steps- I counted - through an empty restaurant to the table where I could then take off the mask). The French don't seem wrapped around the axle by it.

A word about masks: It seems here in Paris that the people are wearing white N95 or blue and white surgical masks EXCLUSIVELY and not those idiotic, cloth, re-usable bacteria collectors Americans insist on using. They also don't wear them as chin warmers.

If the Governors, the local health directors, the CDC, and the news media were really serious about how effective masks are and how important they are, the FIRST thing they should do is go on a major public information advertising campaign about ditching cloth in favor of N95 or surgical masks ONLY and the proper way of wearing of the bloody things. THEN, masks might actually be helpful in reducing transmission rates.