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galleycafe 06-10-2020 06:18 AM

I've started reading more Stephen King so I can be appropriately fearful for today's society.

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Knobcrk1 06-10-2020 07:17 AM


Originally Posted by GeeWizDriver (Post 3073079)
OH MY GOD! It’s ARMAGEDDON! Dogs and cats, living together! Mass hysteria!

I take this just as seriously as I do the seasonal flu. Common sense prevention tips. Isolate the vulnerable. Treat the sick. Mourn the dead. And live your life.

The idea the american public will sit still for a second lockdown went out the window the minute the riots started in Minneapolis. On a macro level, the numbers are actually falling, herd immunity is growing, and this huge, second wave you speak of is nary a ripple.

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Hopefully it’s just a ripple but the government won’t think twice about imposing stay at home orders again. It’s pretty simple, if the hospitalization goes up they’ll shut it down. Also as far as herd immunity, it’s not that simple...... that’s going to take years not weeks. In order for that to have happened in the time you’re talking about, lots and lots will have to die.... Other countries have essentially stopped the virus, down to zero almost, we haven’t.

Excargodog 06-10-2020 07:26 AM


Originally Posted by Knobcrk1 (Post 3073138)
Hopefully it’s just a ripple but the government won’t think twice about imposing stay at home orders again.

Au contraire. The cost of this shutdown in both human and economic terms will turn out to be so high, no one in government will ever do this again, even if we had a far more serious pathogen for which it might actually be indicated.

Everyone fights the last war and in this case it’s become clear that our own fear defeated us.

Bozo the pilot 06-10-2020 08:16 AM


Originally Posted by popcopy (Post 3072864)
Actually, you're not a member of the John Hopkins University team tracking the COVID-19 pandemic. But it's cute how you think you're better informed than the John Hopkins people.

You cant even see any truth can you? You just vomit numbers that are fed to you like the lemming that you are.

galleycafe 06-10-2020 08:25 AM


Originally Posted by popcopy (Post 3072864)
Actually, you're not a member of the John Hopkins University team tracking the COVID-19 pandemic. But it's cute how you think you're better informed than the John Hopkins people.

*Johns

When lecturing about being informed...

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GeeWizDriver 06-10-2020 09:10 AM


Originally Posted by galleycafe (Post 3073203)
*Johns

When lecturing about being informed...

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Oooh, snap.

Well played sir.

Duffman 06-10-2020 09:13 AM


Originally Posted by Knobcrk1 (Post 3073138)
Hopefully it’s just a ripple but the government won’t think twice about imposing stay at home orders again. It’s pretty simple, if the hospitalization goes up they’ll shut it down. Also as far as herd immunity, it’s not that simple...... that’s going to take years not weeks. In order for that to have happened in the time you’re talking about, lots and lots will have to die.... Other countries have essentially stopped the virus, down to zero almost, we haven’t.

Trump has made it very clear we're not shutting down again, no matter what. Governors are a wild card. However, not being shut down won't force people to participate in the economy. Even with everything open, if we only to rebound to 50% of last years numbers, that means the airlines are roughly 50% overstaffed come October. Containment is the quickest way out of this mess, but it'll never work if super spreaders are running around.

furloughfuntime 06-10-2020 10:43 AM


Originally Posted by Excargodog (Post 3073148)
Au contraire. The cost of this shutdown in both human and economic terms will turn out to be so high, no one in government will ever do this again, even if we had a far more serious pathogen for which it might actually be indicated.

Everyone fights the last war and in this case it’s become clear that our own fear defeated us.

I'll just leave this here: https://www.washingtonpost.com/healt...s-study-finds/

Fron the article:
"Societies around the world are weighing whether the health benefits of anti-contagion policies are worth their social and economic costs,” the Berkeley team wrote. The economic costs of shutdowns are highly visible — closed stores, huge job losses, empty streets, food lines. The health benefits of the shutdowns, however, are invisible, because they involve “infections that never occurred and deaths that did not happen.....“The whole point of this study is to help us understand what we got for this tremendous sacrifice that the country has gone through. Ultimately, whether or not it was worth it is something society has to decide,” he said.

The early indicators of community spread were akin to seeing cracks form in the ceiling and realizing the roof was about collapse, he said. The shutdowns were painful and exhausting, but “nevertheless everyone caught the roof and held it up before it crashed in on everyone.”

Excargodog 06-10-2020 12:19 PM


Originally Posted by furloughfuntime (Post 3073278)

The early indicators of community spread were akin to seeing cracks form in the ceiling and realizing the roof was about collapse, he said. The shutdowns were painful and exhausting, but “nevertheless everyone caught the roof and held it up before it crashed in on everyone.”


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Tom Bradys Cat 06-10-2020 12:40 PM

The early indicators of community spread were akin to seeing cracks form in the ceiling and realizing the roof was about collapse, he said. The shutdowns were painful and exhausting, but “nevertheless everyone caught the roof and held it up before it crashed in on everyone.” but then people slowly realised that it wasnt structural rather it was just the plaster cracking.


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