I think the bigger issue is that the US economy doesn't function the same as a more "socialist" economy. We're a shark, if we stop swimming we drown. However, I really don't think anyone on here can definitively say how bad the virus really is. Think of it as a natural disaster, do we try to stop a cat 5 hurricane from hitting FL? No, but we take precautions to coexist with it and pick up the pieces after it's gone. Same thing here. You don't want to be the dude ignoring evac orders when you live 10' below sea level, claiming the storm is an overblown conspiracy, but at the same time, burning down your house and moving to KS isn't the right solution either. Everything is a balance.

We burned down the house though. :rolleyes:

No matter what, like even if hypothetically there’s a second wave? At this point that would be political suicide. Good thing we don’t live in a monarchy and the governors have the say.

You’d think this goes without saying, hard to believe some need to be reminded this.

Politically this is an unwinnable game. I'm certain there'll be more outbreaks. The virus spreads when people who have the virus start interacting in the general public, it's not cosmic. I've been advocating for containment through coexisting with the virus by distancing in poorly ventilated spaces, proper hygiene, sanitizing where able, and wearing face masks, this whole time. At worst, it's inconvenient and unnecessary, at best it drives the R0 well below 1,saves the economy from irreversible damage, and saves a lot of our jobs. I think the people who are going to cost us our livelihoods are the ones who, whether through denial or conspiracy theories, are not taking the virus seriously. One super spreader can undo the diligent efforts of a lot of people who are trying to keep the economy going without spreading the virus.

I’m just not seeing any 2nd wave
 

I see total numbers of those who have or have had coronavirus going up, as testing becomes more widely available, new cases coming down, despite that more widespread testing, and deaths coming down, as that more available testing detects mostly milder or asymptomatic cases that probably wouldn’t have qualified for testing at all under the earlier criteria. That’s about it....

https://i.ibb.co/mNx63Wy/413-CD3-FC-...B635-BD514.jpg

https://i.ibb.co/smPMgJM/F6-AE0-B0-E...6-B43-B4-E.jpg

Damn it CargoDog! Stop it with the DATA! Don't you KNOW that the world is imploding? Don't you understand that selfish people like you who want to work and feed their families are going to KILL everyone?

By that logic, we should just stay in lockdown forever... lot safer that way. Definitely ban all motorizied ground vehicles.

Excargo dog.....didnt think of that....cases going down drspite more testing.....yeah a second wave.....probably not. Just an endemic burbling along

Can you please site your source for the graphs?