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Originally Posted by Excargodog
(Post 3076691)
If you are referring to:
I do not consider that to be a valid question. Effective strategy to what end? There ARE NO fixed percentages. And they answer varies within a given group due to other issues such as population density. Which goes to the point. The Draconian one size fits all policies are not justifiable. There are no sharp cutoffs. There is nothing scientific about the six foot rule any more than there is about the now thoroughly discredited 21 foot rule in policing. WHO ARE YOU TRYING TO PROTECT? The healthy young military member? 3000 people on the USS Theodore Roosevelt got coronavirus. One (1) died from it. The “general public”? The 85 year old in a nursing home with COPD and coronary artery disease? The elementary school kid who actually DOES need an education to make his/her way in the world? You seriously think the optimal solution for one will be an optimal solution for all? According to my fiance's mother, who has a PhD in Epidemiology and is a professor at an Ivy League school, the 6' rule exists because that's roughly how far you expel aerosols while speaking at normal conversational volumes. Masks bring that down to less than a foot. You need a draconian one-size-fits-all policy because distancing, along with masks, do work and you have to draw the line somewhere, unless you think there should be distance rules for all situations, based on airflow, face coverings, type of coverings, etc. I elect one simple guideline. |
Originally Posted by Duffman
(Post 3076758)
According to my fiance's mother, who has a PhD in Epidemiology and is a professor at an Ivy League school, the 6' rule exists because that's roughly how far you expel aerosols while speaking at normal conversational volumes. Masks bring that down to less than a foot. You need a draconian one-size-fits-all policy because distancing, along with masks, do work and you have to draw the line somewhere, unless you think there should be distance rules for all situations, based on airflow, face coverings, type of coverings, etc. I elect one simple guideline.
There's a huge credibility issue now, caused by presenting hypotheses as truths, providing intentionally false or dramatically overstated information in order to achieve certain behaviors, and generally considering the public as ignoramuses that need to be manipulated. Even if the intentions are pure and the facts are correct, this will now have to be overcome. |
Originally Posted by Anson Harris
(Post 3076780)
So why do we need to wear masks and be 6 feet apart?
There's a huge credibility issue now, caused by presenting hypotheses as truths, providing intentionally false or dramatically overstated information in order to achieve certain behaviors, and generally considering the public as ignoramuses that need to be manipulated. Even if the intentions are pure and the facts are correct, this will now have to be overcome. worth perusing: https://twitter.com/EricRWeinstein/s...354746882?s=20 |
Originally Posted by Excargodog
(Post 3076606)
And what happens if we NEVER develop an effective immunization against Coronavirus?
We’ve never developed one against:
https://www.cnn.com/2020/05/03/healt...ntl/index.html |
Originally Posted by Excargodog
(Post 3076839)
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Originally Posted by Anson Harris
(Post 3076780)
So why do we need to wear masks and be 6 feet apart?
There's a huge credibility issue now, caused by presenting hypotheses as truths, providing intentionally false or dramatically overstated information in order to achieve certain behaviors, and generally considering the public as ignoramuses that need to be manipulated. Even if the intentions are pure and the facts are correct, this will now have to be overcome. I personally am financially secure, young, fit, and have engineering to fall back on, so if the virus gets out of hand, I really don't care. I even know which 3x inverse ETFs to day trade if the market collapses, so I'd probably benefit from another crash. Everyone knows the risks by now and ultimately you're the only person responsible for you. |
Originally Posted by Knobcrk1
(Post 3076903)
Not even the mask huh? Something that’s so basic... All or nothing. You’d be a lot more believable if you’d said this is a hoax but I’ll wear the mask because it at least slows the chances and it’s the right thing to do to help others. It’s based on hard science, studies and common sense. But again you search for that one guy on Twitter that validates you guy’s beliefs. So you guys want to open it up for the healthy ones as they have a 1% chance of death and not wear masks or social distance huh? Have a good one, just make sure to stay away from the responsible ones.
https://www.livescience.com/face-masks-eye-protection-covid-19-prevention.html https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2020/06/200612172200.htm By this point, if you don't wear a mask I assume it's because a) its uncomfortable, b) you forgot it, or c) you're a conspiracy theorist. Which is fine with me, but keep in mind the "at risk" populations are probably less enthusiastic. |
I'm not sure you guys are even reading before posting anymore....
Did somebody claim masks don't help? Oh yeah, it was CDC, but they were only kidding at the time. |
I just don't see why so many folks (mostly of the "R" political persuasion) have a problem with wearing a mask. Sure, I *hate* the darn things. They're scratchy, inconvenient, fog up my sunglasses, and look ridiculous.
But I would feel pretty bad if I unknowingly had the virus and passed it on to my friends or loved ones, all because I was too selfish to wear a mask. And yet, somehow it's become a macho symbol. "I don't need no mask, I'm healthy, you can't tell me what to do." The level of selfishness and entitlement in this attitude is pretty astonishing. I dunno. I guess some people just don't give a *** about others. It's just that simple. |
Originally Posted by Turbosina
(Post 3076964)
I just don't see why so many folks (mostly of the "R" political persuasion) have a problem with wearing a mask. Sure, I *hate* the darn things. They're scratchy, inconvenient, fog up my sunglasses, and look ridiculous.
But I would feel pretty bad if I unknowingly had the virus and passed it on to my friends or loved ones, all because I was too selfish to wear a mask. And yet, somehow it's become a macho symbol. "I don't need no mask, I'm healthy, you can't tell me what to do." The level of selfishness and entitlement in this attitude is pretty astonishing. I dunno. I guess some people just don't give a *** about others. It's just that simple. |
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