TSA numbers above 100k seven days in row
#371
Thats almost a to simplistic way to look at it. Overall LF may only be 70% but some markets are definitely seeing higher LF than others. The panhandle of Florida is seeing close to the 85% cap daily. There are some markets that are just going to underperform others with the stage of reopening. So it could be possible that we are approaching an artificial cap to the daily numbers due to the markets that there is a desire to travel to not having enough flights to allow for increased demand.
#372
Why should that surprise anyone. It isn’t necessarily ON PURPOSE either. They haven’t been through this before either. I know at least two that are actively adding capacity. But the initial predictions by the “wise men” was that barring a vaccine, recovery was going to be at least a couple of years. Of course, they were guessing too.
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Not at all. I think they will probably be slow to react and look for some consistent trends. I’m saying that overall LF takes into account every destination. So 100% on one rout and 50% on another would give you 75% LF system wide. Obviously that’s over simplified but the point is that using overall LF from all flights will not give a clear picture as to how much more capacity there may be.
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Of course they aren’t, the airlines just didn’t know what demand was gonna look like in May when they were planning back in April.....Again most airlines are adjusting by planning a sizable increase for June and again in July.... but as for May the capacity is pretty much set for the next week and a half and therefore my opinion are the TSA numbers won’t budge beyond where they are now until the first week of June when the new schedule takes effect.
#375
The airlines aren't gauging demand by clicking refresh on the TSA website. They are monitoring bookings and web searches 24/7 and tracking many other political and market aspects as well. They met most of Mays demand fairly well when they were looking forward from the month of April when you factor in the minimum service requirements of the stimulus deal. But like I said earlier, what can't be planned for are the unknown events that trigger a sudden change in demand: Lock-downs lifting, tourist areas opening, breaking medical news, etc... the kinds of things that have begun happening in the latter half of May. No one knows when those things are going to happen.
There are also hundreds of freshly parked airplanes and thousands of current pilots and flight attendants sitting reserve ready to work. Flights can be added back quickly. Just today my company placed a ton of flying in open time beginning 4 days from now through to the end of June. Yesterday there was zilch. It's no coincidence that as places announce upcoming openings in the last few days that we suddenly see multiple airlines adding flights in June/late May that weren't on the schedule just days ago.
Look, all I'm saying is that when unexpected materializes, the ability to quickly meet that demand exists and the airlines aren't going to sit idly by while needed demand goes unmet.
There are also hundreds of freshly parked airplanes and thousands of current pilots and flight attendants sitting reserve ready to work. Flights can be added back quickly. Just today my company placed a ton of flying in open time beginning 4 days from now through to the end of June. Yesterday there was zilch. It's no coincidence that as places announce upcoming openings in the last few days that we suddenly see multiple airlines adding flights in June/late May that weren't on the schedule just days ago.
Look, all I'm saying is that when unexpected materializes, the ability to quickly meet that demand exists and the airlines aren't going to sit idly by while needed demand goes unmet.
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I'd almost guarantee, like States and airlines, that Disney will be right behind Universal.
I can't believe more isn't being made about the new CDC findings that it isn't spread from surfaces nearly as much as originally thought. Guess CNN just wants to keep the fear going.
I can't believe more isn't being made about the new CDC findings that it isn't spread from surfaces nearly as much as originally thought. Guess CNN just wants to keep the fear going.
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The media isn’t there to paint positivity and wishes, it’s there to paint the reality whether you like it or not. The reality is that the curve is only flattened, none of the states have trends to show that this is anywhere close to over. In fact many of the states that are opening have had spikes already in the cases. Most of the potential travelers see this and they’re staying local for now. Like it’s been said, airlines don’t look at daily TSA numbers they look at real data. They can only go day by day and these projected uptick in flying in June and beyond don’t mean anything.
#378
The media isn’t there to paint positivity and wishes, it’s there to paint the reality whether you like it or not. The reality is that the curve is only flattened, none of the states have trends to show that this is anywhere close to over. In fact many of the states that are opening have had spikes already in the cases. Most of the potential travelers see this and they’re staying local for now. Like it’s been said, airlines don’t look at daily TSA numbers they look at real data. They can only go day by day and these projected uptick in flying in June and beyond don’t mean anything.
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The media isn’t there to paint positivity and wishes, it’s there to paint the reality whether you like it or not. The reality is that the curve is only flattened, none of the states have trends to show that this is anywhere close to over. In fact many of the states that are opening have had spikes already in the cases. Most of the potential travelers see this and they’re staying local for now. Like it’s been said, airlines don’t look at daily TSA numbers they look at real data. They can only go day by day and these projected uptick in flying in June and beyond don’t mean anything.
Resuming panicking.
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People can’t even listen to anything anymore unless it supports their views. One example is those articles or coverages of completely healthy people dying from getting the virus as well as how contagious it is. You can say it’s fear mongering or you can call it them reporting what’s happening. The media’s responsibility is to cover reality, if you don’t like it you can make up whatever reality you want.
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