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WutFace 07-10-2020 05:35 PM

International Flying Isn't Returning Soon
 
US Passports are currently worthless.
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Who's still onboard the "let it ride" train?

emersonbiguns 07-10-2020 06:22 PM


Originally Posted by WutFace (Post 3089720)
Who's still onboard the "let it ride" train?

It's all media hype.

Desdi 07-10-2020 06:27 PM


Originally Posted by emersonbiguns (Post 3089739)
It's all media hype.

Geeeze Wutface! I mean really?! You officially are rooting for the virus by this post!

WutFace 07-10-2020 06:33 PM


Originally Posted by Desdi (Post 3089742)
Geeeze Wutface! I mean really?! You officially are rooting for the virus by this post!

No. I'm not. And you seem oddly obsessed with me. I'm getting a little weirded out by you.

The nay-sayers and the let-it-riders have faded into the shadows on this forum, and for good reason. This virus is not going away, it's getting worse, and we need proactive measures to restore the health and wealth of this nation.

All my posts are somehow trying to convince those who refuse to wear masks or socially distance that this is deadly serious. Our jobs are riding on how we come together and deal with it. Our loved ones' health is riding on it. It's time to take it seriously.

So Desdi, either ask me on a date, or stop calling me out.

fifidriver 07-10-2020 06:37 PM

How many weekly posts do we really need of this BS. Shhh... Americans banned by EU.... International travel not coming back....Yada Yada yada... Yes we know it... you love some misery, doom and gloom bulls@#$t! We get it, you and couple others have a hard on for posting this type of "news".

fifidriver 07-10-2020 06:41 PM


Originally Posted by WutFace (Post 3089749)
No. I'm not. And you seem oddly obsessed with me. I'm getting a little weirded out by you.

The nay-sayers and the let-it-riders have faded into the shadows on this forum, and for good reason. This virus is not going away, it's getting worse, and we need proactive measures to restore the health and wealth of this nation.

All my posts are somehow trying to convince those who refuse to wear masks or socially distance that this is deadly serious. Our jobs are riding on how we come together and deal with it. Our loved ones' health is riding on it. It's time to take it seriously.

So Desdi, either ask me on a date, or stop calling me out.

We are just obsessed with your stupidity. 😉 It takes a some kind of stupid to keep posting same thing over and over. Besides you and couple others, no one takes this forum crap seriously.

furloughfuntime 07-10-2020 06:42 PM


Originally Posted by fifidriver (Post 3089755)
How many weekly posts do we really need of this BS. Shhh... Americans banned by EU.... International travel not coming back....Yada Yada yada... Yes we know it... you love some misery, doom and gloom bulls@#$t! We get it, you and couple others have a hard on for posting this type of "news".

Denial hasn't gotten us anywhere. We need to confront the problem, and it will go away more quickly if people would just work together. Instead, mask wearing has become a controversial and politicized issue. We could have moved on from this by now

WutFace 07-10-2020 06:42 PM


Originally Posted by fifidriver (Post 3089755)
How many weekly posts do we really need of this BS. Shhh... Americans banned by EU.... International travel not coming back....Yada Yada yada... Yes we know it... you love some misery, doom and gloom bulls@#$t! We get it, you and couple others have a hard on for posting this type of "news".

Why'd you put news in quotes? The validity of US passports seems quite relevant to the airline industry.
Yeah, it's doom and gloom. I'm not happy about it. But some of you would rather put your heads in the sand and pretend it's not happening. That's only making matters worse.

Sorry it's a big downer for you. But COVID ain't any going away anytime soon.

CantTaxiToACS 07-10-2020 07:14 PM

https://www.cnbc.com/2020/07/10/who-...right-now.html

”WHO Director Says ‘It’s Very Unlikely’ Countries Can Eradicate Disease Now”

Defintely one item I have been losing my mind about for months. Lockdowns don’t eradicate the disease, it just puts it on hold for later. So this relates to the thread because soon, those Europeans will need to go back to normal to function. COVID is very contagious, it will spread again cause the lockdowns keep people vulnerable. Their cases go up, we point and laugh. It’s all good fun.

New York at its best settled into 800 new cases per day. But that’s still 800 confirmed cases every day, not counting the people who have it and have no idea since it’s statistically not dangerous for most. Even at the worst CFR estimate 95% are fine. This is all like keeping tissue paper over the exhaust of a Dodge Viper to keep the CO2 in. Almost 8 billion people on this rock. Not every one of them lives in a nice apartment with UberEats and can afford to video conference their dumb Marketing job from home. It’s gonna spread.

Lockdowns aren’t for eradication, it was for hospitals. Since we haven’t eradicated anything, and effectively been keeping people vulnerable. It’s gonna be one step forward and two steps back with every reopening. We can’t hide from this. Full lockdown or let it rip. These “model” countries will soon have their own upticks as they travel between, COVID is easily transmitted. We’ll have a good laugh back at them eventually.

And then the cycle will continue. Some new anti-viral will pump the market for a day, Biden will say an oopsie, Trump will accidentally re-tweet a hate crime, CDC information about how tens of millions have already had this will get swept under the rug by media, the airline industry will tumble and maybe once the house that our grandfathers died for finally crumbles, we’ll all look at each other and say... “oh oops, 99.6% of us would’ve be fine.”

WutFace 07-10-2020 07:22 PM


Originally Posted by CantTaxiToACS (Post 3089782)
https://www.cnbc.com/2020/07/10/who-...right-now.html

”WHO Director Says ‘It’s Very Unlikely’ Countries Can Eradicate Disease Now”

Defintely one item I have been losing my mind about for months. Lockdowns don’t eradicate the disease, it just puts it on hold for later.

We're pilots, not epidemiologists. But what I can say is that eradication never really happens. Even Polio wasn't 100% eradicated. But what you can do is get the clusters small enough that they can be isolated and smothered quickly.

So not being able to 100% eradicate a virus is not permission to do nothing. It's like complaining that because the embers of the wildfire you just extinguished don't get cold, you should stop spraying water.

And you seem to have forgotten the conversation we had earlier. We're stalling until the vaccine. Dr. Fauci has been reporting that several vaccine candidates are looking good for a late 2020 approval and an early 2021 rollout.

Wouldn't it be a shame if we did nothing, hundreds of thousands more died, and then a solid vaccine comes through 8 months later?


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