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Old 10-07-2020, 07:22 PM
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The fed is paying for pre-production of vaccine candidates, that should be available to any reasonable candidate which is technically practical to manufacture at scale.

Perhaps the idea is to reserve bureaucratic certification bandwidth for candidates which can ship product immediately?
Even so, it isn’t like we even have millions of VIALS sitting around to be loaded up with vaccine that might not get approved.
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Old 10-07-2020, 08:01 PM
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Even so, it isn’t like we even have millions of VIALS sitting around to be loaded up with vaccine that might not get approved.
I believe we do actually. The fed paid for some of it, and some manufacturers made the investment on their own, back in May/June. Acceptable risk is that it all gets flushed down the drain if it flunks certification.

Obviously it would not make sense to add another six-nine months for production onto the timeline post-certification... the cost of pre-production is minuscule compared to the economic carnage.

https://www.hhs.gov/coronavirus/expl...eed/index.html
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Old 10-07-2020, 09:42 PM
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Originally Posted by rickair7777 View Post
I believe we do actually. The fed paid for some of it, and some manufacturers made the investment on their own, back in May/June.
On February 24, 2011, the Department of Defense (DOD) announced the Boeing Company as the winner of a competition to build 179 new KC-46A aerial refueling tankers for the Air Force, a contract valued at roughly $35 billion. The first four KC-46 aircraft were delivered to McConnell AFB, KS, in January 2019, not remotely meeting specifications.

So let’s hope the Big Pharma people do a little better...
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Old 10-08-2020, 07:00 AM
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Originally Posted by Excargodog View Post
So let’s hope the Big Pharma people do a little better...
"Better than Boeing" is the metric? I don't think that's asking too much
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Johnson & Johnson Temporarily Pauses All Dosing in Our Janssen COVID-19 Vaccine Candidate Clinical Trials

October 12, 2020At Johnson & Johnson, there is no greater priority than the safety and well being of the people we serve every day around the world. We are committed to providing transparent updates throughout the clinical development process of our vaccine candidate, in compliance with regulatory standards and our own high ethical and scientific principles.

We have temporarily paused further dosing in all our COVID-19 vaccine candidate clinical trials, including the Phase 3 ENSEMBLEtrial, due to an unexplained illness in a study participant. Following our guidelines, the participant’s illness is being reviewed and evaluated by the ENSEMBLE independent Data Safety Monitoring Board (DSMB) as well as our internal clinical and safety physicians.

Adverse events – illnesses, accidents, etc. - even those that are serious, are an expected part of any clinical study, especially large studies. Based on our strong commitment to safety, all clinical studies conducted by the Janssen Pharmaceutical Companies of Johnson & Johnson have prespecified guidelines. These ensure our studies may be paused if an unexpected serious adverse event (SAE) that might be related to a vaccine or study drug is reported, so there can be a careful review of all of the medical information before deciding whether to restart the study.

We must respect this participant’s privacy. We’re also learning more about this participant’s illness, and it’s important to have all the facts before we share additional information.

SAEs are not uncommon in clinical trials, and the number of SAEs can reasonably be expected to increase in trials involving large numbers of participants. Further, as many trials are placebo-controlled, it is not always immediately apparent whether a participant received a study treatment or a placebo.

“Study Pause” vs. “Regulatory Hold:” What’s the Difference?

While these terms are sometimes used interchangeably, there is a significant distinction between a study pause and a regulatory hold of a clinical trial.
  • A study pause, in which recruitment or dosing is paused by the study sponsor, is a standard component of a clinical trial protocol.As noted in the ENSEMBLE study protocol, Johnson & Johnson has robust mechanisms in place to protect the safety of participants in its clinical trials. While the Company informs all study investigators, we typically do not communicate study pauses publicly.
  • A regulatory hold of a clinical trial is a requirement by a regulatory health authority, such as the U.S. Food and Drug Administration (FDA). As outlined in our transparency commitments, we proactively disclose any regulatory hold of a pivotal clinical trial.
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Not exactly vaccine news but possibly related:

Antibody trial at Eli Lilly is paused because of potential safety concerns

The New York Times reported Tuesday that "a government-sponsored clinical trial testing an antibody treatment made by the drug company Eli Lilly has been paused because of a 'potential safety concern.'"

The trial was designed to test the benefits of the therapy on hundreds of people hospitalized with COVID-19, the Times said. It did not say how many volunteers were sick, or any details about their illness."In large clinical trials, such pauses are not unusual, and illness in volunteers is not necessarily the result of the experimental drug or vaccine," the Times said. "Such halts are meant to allow an independent board of scientific experts to review the data and determine whether the event may have been related to the treatment, or occurred by chance."

In a statement sent to USA TODAY, Lilly spokeswoman Molly McCully confirmed the pause of the trial: "Safety is of the utmost importance to Lilly. We are aware that, out of an abundance of caution, the ACTIV-3 independent data safety monitoring board (DSMB) has recommended a pause in enrollment. Lilly is supportive of the decision by the independent DSMB to cautiously ensure the safety of the patients participating in this study.”
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Fox News: https://www.foxbusiness.com/healthca...s-stock-slides

Eli Lilly drug on pause due to safety concerns
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Originally Posted by Excargodog View Post
Not exactly vaccine news but possibly related:

This one seems worse as this seems to systemic. As in people taking the drug are doing worse then the control for whatever reason.
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This one seems worse as this seems to systemic. As in people taking the drug are doing worse then the control for whatever reason.
If this is antibody dependent enhancement of the illness, it’s very bad news. Not just for therapeutics but for vaccine prospects as well. And it has always been at least a theoretical concern:



https://www.nature.com/articles/s41564-020-00789-5#Sec1

But until Lilly releases more info, it’s anybody’s guess.
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Vaccines may not be approved for children initially. Makes sense, they are very low-risk for severe covid anyway, let the dust settle a bit first.

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-h...-idUSKBN26Z2IP
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