:rolleyes:

They roll out the ganga as the miracle cure for just about anything. Greatest snake oil ever (since they took coca out of soda pop).

You don't even need a medical excuse to toke these days, it mostly legal now.

Actually, my greatest concern right now is that my employer will bow to the mob again and require vaccination just as they required a mandatory Covid test recently.

A swab up the nose to mollify customers is one thing. Injecting an unproven and minimally tested substance into your body in something else entirely.

I have said from the beginning it would not surprise me especially with the lack of control we have in the US for other countries to require it for a US passport holder to enter. So while your company may not require you might have to stay strictly domestic. (if possible.)

Plan on it. You don't have to get a vaccine.

But businesses, organizations, schools, and employers don't have to let you in their facility either.

But right now they seem on track to complete all normal regulatory testing of any vaccine. They can shortcut financing, red tape, and manufacturing, but it does not appear that anyone has any appetite to deploy a vaccine before phase III trails are complete. That might have been different if the bug had a fatality rate of 30% and a billion people caught it.

Phase IV is done after deployment and consists of surveillance of end users, just in case anything pops up. So you could consider early users of any vaccine or pharma to be part of the evaluation process. I'm still willing to go to work, which carries some slight but non-zero risk, so personally I'm willing to take a new vaccine which will carry lower risk than covid.

Biology is complex, so a new vaccine *might possibly* have unexpected side effects... but there's no particular reason to think it will either. Your airplane might crash too, but if you had reason to suspect a problem you'd just go back to the gate.

Hes also never seen a vaccine that modern medicine has wanted more badly than this one. Every major government is throwing billions for a vaccine.

The Ebola vaccine has proven very effective.

Are they throwing the billions at the time machine? It takes TIME to make sure a vaccine is SAFE and EFFECTIVE. DNA sequencing tech has certainly shortened the development of vaccines. But you have to WAIT for clinical trial results if you want to make sure there are no unintended consequences to the vaccine.

They are waiting. See my post above.

I was gonna say so far only Russia and China have said f.... it and given authorization before phase 3.

???

For values of effective I guess.

https://www.scientificamerican.com/a...al-drc-region/



https://www.nature.com/articles/d41586-020-01950-0

But it was an epidemic that involved immunizing only 300,000 people, and even so it took two years. And another epidemic of Ebola has already broken out on the other side of the country. And - despite the problems they had with vaccine acceptance, people are a lot more willing to be vaccinated against something with a 50% mortality than they are against something with a 0.5% (or less for the young) mortality.

I’m not against immunizations and certainly hope that we come up with an effective, safe, and cheap vaccine. But I don’t think it will be the panacea everyone seems to assume it will be. Public acceptance and the sheer logistics of any mass immunization process are serious issues that will need to be overcome, even with a perfect vaccine.