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skywatch 12-11-2020 08:51 AM


Originally Posted by Duffman (Post 3169389)
the virus affects everyone differently. Here’s the latest CDC data showing that COVID is more fatal than the flu somewhere in the 15-24 age group by a factor of 9:
https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/nvss/vsrr/c....htm#AgeAndSex
Nobody knows why COVID affects people differently, but it does. Just because a bee sting is no big deal for you doesn’t mean it won’t kill someone else whose a trained cage fighter and until we can figure out how to identify the mechanism that makes it so deadly, getting the virus is Russian roullette. I’m not targetting you specifically, just bringing a different perspective.

I am not seeing where any of those charts say anything like that? What are specifically looking at?

rickair7777 12-11-2020 09:14 AM


Originally Posted by Duffman (Post 3169389)
the virus affects everyone differently. Here’s the latest CDC data showing that COVID is more fatal than the flu somewhere in the 15-24 age group by a factor of 9:
https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/nvss/vsrr/c....htm#AgeAndSex
Nobody knows why COVID affects people differently, but it does. Just because a bee sting is no big deal for you doesn’t mean it won’t kill someone else whose a trained cage fighter and until we can figure out how to identify the mechanism that makes it so deadly, getting the virus is Russian roullette. I’m not targetting you specifically, just bringing a different perspective.

That's true for almost any pathogen, plus you can always get cancer or get hit by a bus. I didn't say my risk is zero, it's never zero in any aspect of life. Just that it's not high risk for covid in my family/school bubble. My parents are very high-risk, so I've only seen them once since this started, and only after a 10-day quarantine, a covid test, and a 17-hour road trip to avoid air travel. Of course after all that, when I arrived it turned out that they had relaxed their covid posture a bit (fatigue I guess), but at least if they do get it I'll know it wasn't from me.

rickair7777 12-11-2020 10:11 AM


Originally Posted by Seneca Pilot (Post 3169401)

Maybe we do know why now.

Some key genetic risk factors have just been identified. This opens the prospect for targeted treatments for severe covid, as well as testing to further segregate risk in the population.

https://www.reuters.com/article/heal...-idUSKBN28L256

Gordie H 12-11-2020 12:40 PM

Slow roll
 
President Trump is correct today - what the hell is wrong with the FDA?

tlove482 12-11-2020 12:42 PM

Why didn't they find out about the allergic reaction in the trials?

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rickair7777 12-11-2020 12:55 PM


Originally Posted by tlove482 (Post 3169517)
Why didn't they find out about the allergic reaction in the trials?

Several possible reasons I can think of...

1) It's very rare, and was a fluke that it turned up right away. Don't know how many people the UK vaccinated before that poped up, might have many thousands, maybe even larger than the trial group.
2) The trial participants were selected in such a way that they weren't perfectly representative of the general population. Might have been done for safety, or possibly in the course of trying for specific data (example, selecting demographics at risk for severe covid). This is normal, and one of the reasons they monitor pharma after deployment (phase 4).
3) Remotely possible, but pretty unlikely, that they got a bad batch of vaccine.

AntiPeter 12-11-2020 01:09 PM


Originally Posted by rickair7777 (Post 3169468)
Maybe we do know why now.

Some key genetic risk factors have just been identified. This opens the prospect for targeted treatments for severe covid, as well as testing to further segregate risk in the population.

https://www.reuters.com/article/heal...-idUSKBN28L256

https://jamanetwork.com/journals/jam...rticle/2772071

I have a couple healthy younger friends that got diagnosed with what is likely terminal cancer this year. I believe every disease and illness has its idiopathic outliers. Live life like today may be your last.

As far as COVID, discussing the known risk factors seems to make people “uncomfortable”.

Excargodog 12-11-2020 07:39 PM

https://i.ibb.co/Fzrpz7Z/688-E54-FA-...B3598696-F.jpg


filler.....

rickair7777 12-12-2020 07:49 AM

Childen trials in progress...

https://www.foxbusiness.com/markets/...sting-children

BoilerUP 12-12-2020 08:26 AM

FAA approves pilots and controllers to take Pfizer SARS-CoV-2 vaccine with 48hr waiting period between injection and duty.

https://www.faa.gov/news/updates/?newsId=96258


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